It’s a shame etb embarrassed themselves in the third period. Lost their cool. You’ll see it on MSG varsity tomorrow night unless they edit it out. They embarrassed section one.
Old School Mountie
You hate to hear that. You need to accept defeat with as much class as you enjoy winning.
Hockey Voice
Nice Job Mike… Thanks. I’ll be covering the Massena vs. Thousand Islands/Alex Bay Section 10 Division 1 final tomorrow night… about 8:15 on 1340wmsa.com, if you want to check in once in a while. The Division two final, Salmon River vs. Ogdensburg at 5:30 should be on ckonfm.com.
Rocket Fuel
Both teams had goals waived off. I thought they were both bad calls, especially sufferns. The puck hit the kids skate as he was driving to the net, he did not guide it in or kick it. So it was a wash as far as that was concerned. ETB had decent chances in the first period, they could not capitalize. Obviously the ETB 3 were frustrated as they could not connect and score off Stark who played really well. Suffern kept most ETB shots to the perimeter as expected, Sufferns shots were much higher percentage type shots.
HOpefully MSG lvarsity edits out the ridiculous display by an ETB player who totally lost it, screaming at the official, screaming at a Suffern player, totally animated, slamming doors. Ridiculous and makes section one look bad when things like that happen, especially if it is aired.
So after 22 games we finally got to see ETB with their best players play Suffern. The result was exactly as expected. The high powered offense could only score one goal. And the line that was supposed to be as good as sufferns first line…. was not today.
Congrats to the other ETB players who had a real good season, nothing to be ashamed of getting to west point. They were definitely the second best team in D1 this year.
Congratulations
To all four teams on a great day of hockey. Suffern did a nice clean job handling ETB. Suffern and Pelham repeat as Section Champs which is amazing. For Suffern thats three Section Championships in a row and 6 out of the last eight years? For Pelham its three wins in the last four years at the Point all one goal wins and all games won in third period. Three trips to Uitca in the last four years. Pelham has now won 3 Sectional titles out of the last four years and 5 out of the last eight?
What a joke. ETB players and coaches were embarrassing to watch. Need to lose with dignity. They did not represent themselves, their school or the section well at all. Good riddance glad to see you go.
Coaching and systems
are what win at this level. ETB has a number of kids that are strong players, but they aren’t committed to a common system.
chshl
st.anthony had to work in game 2 against st.joe today
st.ant 5, st.joe 3
good for st.joe’s giving them a game and working for it
st.ant vs. (team from buffalo – anyone know?) next sunday march 4 at nassau 7pm right after devils-isles game at 3
@chshl
All due respect but today of all days nobody cares about chshl teams from Staten Island or Long Island
ginger
Once again Stark was solid, I thought that Suffern was more skilled throughout the lineup.
ETB #5 totally lost it – probable not used to playing that level of a game and all the internal games that go on – Suffern #18 baited him and boy did he swallow the bait – what a clown – I hope that it isn’t edited by MSG so he has the opportunity to see how bad he looked – I must give him props for making up his mind and continuing to yell and make a jacka$$ out of himself until the ref tossed him – Don’t know for a fact but was told he also broke the locker room door.
ETB # 44 also deserves recognition for slashing a few Suffern players and making head contact – especially classy act coming out of the penalty box and getting a second penalty a few seconds later.
Third negative comment – The ETB coaching staff must have seen the melt down and should have called timeout and controlled their players – I’m not sure how many of the ETB kids play travel/Juniors but they didn’t look to good tonight. ETB showed that they aren’t used to playing at that level and with 10 minutes left were just looking to inflict pain/injuries to Suffern.
Just want to recognize #8 and #20 for ETB – they both played well and clearly have skill.
As far as the refs they had nothing to do with the outcome of the game. Did they miss a call – absolutely – all you can ask for is the game to be called evenly and it was.
ginger
@ Observations
Been a long time since I played competitive sports – are you kidding me – trash talking is part of the game – You have to control yourself – if you react like a jacka$$ it is only going to get worse.
44 trying to bait Redgate should watch the replay and see how you should react – and then maybe he could wash Redgate’s equipment – that’s as close to being in Redgate’s league as he will ever be.
I assume that is the last competitive hockey game #44 and #5 will play – best of luck in the future.
etb
None of you know what your talking about its high school hockey. mind your own business and #5 did that cause he has heart for the game. He was angry because of what was going on and what the score was really most of you commenting are parents and if this is what you do is bad mouth kids, its sad
The kids on ETB that were showing their a** and playing like thugs were the captains no less. Great leadership . . . classless group from the coaches on down. Adios muchachos and hope you enjoyed your final high school hockey minutes watching from the penalty box.
Observations
I’m fine with trash talking in a close game but when you’re up 6-1, it’s pretty classless. It’s funny you say that because #44’s junior team, metro moose, out of the met jr league beat redgates junior team, the jersey hitmen, earlier in the year. Redgates a good player but he’s not this superior player a lot of you make him out to be.
Eagle
People seem to forget that you are talking about a bunch of 17 and 18 year old kids and saying that they “will never play competitive hockey again” That is just as classless if not more classless than the actions of the players themselves
Guy
Anyone remember what WOJO from Mamo did last year to the ref after the loss to New Ro. These kids are kids, they get fired up and make mistakes. Talking smack is part of the game, and everyone does it. Sanchez and the Suffern kids, have more ability to do it, because they can back it up. Its part of the game, but kids make mistakes, sadly it was 5 and 44’s last mistakes they will make on the ice.
ginger
@Observation
One and only one question – is #44 in the same league as Redgate? If you think so I will be able to determine your expertise – one other question does #44 actually play or is he the water boy?
Swag
5 for etb is a better player than any of sufferns players…he will play at a very high level…also 44 is a great player- nuff said , swag
HS Hky Fan
Suffern was the best D1 team in Sec 1 from day 1…no one disagrees
Ginger are you the nut who was going on about her son the great defenseman last week?
Regarding your last idiotic post, it is hockey not charm school…give it a rest. You sound like a Mahopac parent…”our players and perfect angels and everyone else is a classless bum who is not worthy to be on the ice with my little darling”...you are pathetic
Observations
Not saying he is in the same league as redgate, I just find it funny how you say redgate is a lot better when #44 plays on a better junior team…
5 was awful and 44 wasn’t much better. They may play Juniors but not much further.
Mountie Fan
Go Mounties…Willie showed up big time..starkie not only played solid but had time to tweet during the game(jk but check the timeline). Sad that ETB resorted to cheap shots at the end. Not the way I bet they want to be remembered
ginger
HS Hky Fan
Thank you for the feed back – it hurts to think that you think I’m pathetic.
Sweet Home
Again, Niagara Wheatfield shuts out defending state champ Willy North 4-0 in Div 1 and Div 2 there will be no rematch for Pelham. Kenmore East destroys WillyEast 9-2. I think they are now the favorites to win Div 2 Title. When Willy East came down to play in Suffern tourney in Jan I thought they looked good and would make a run at the title. Oh well looks like Kenmore E, Salmon River and Pelham will shoot it out.
Mr.77
FOOLS ALL OF YOU!!! these are kids and they have a lot of emotions going on in their bodies. #5 is a great player and #44 is a above average player too…..ginger keep thinking your kid is a little prince his whole life and see where that takes him.
sincerely Mr. 77
Jack Stevens
swag
please stop drinking the cool-aid
#5 was probably mad because he was either
on the ice or in the box when suffern scored he was more interested in giving late hits so his friends in the stands could cheer for him than play D the way he is supposed to. very selfish player and no respect for his teammates or his coach. etb was taking runs at suffern d all afternoon & no one retailated because they knew they would be on the bench. #5 needs to understand “it’s not about me – its about us”
@ Mr. 77
Sorry you won’t get to watch your son play anymore HS hockey. Tough loss but ADIOS and this was ETB’s last chance of ever making any noise in the section.
SWAG = LOSER. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Swag
I like my cool aid, but 5 is a great player, do not take anything away from his game..he lost his cool, it happens- stop attacking a kid the way you guys are..
On a lighter note, tyler stark is an amazing goalie
It’s a real shame that people on this blog feel they have the right to criticize these players so openly. They are high school players who put their heart into high school hockey and left it on the ice tonight. I wasn’t there, so I don’t know exactly what happened, but I do know that the emotions those kids must have been feeling were exponentially intense. I coached #5, and what I can tell you is he’s a GREAT kid, and a great player. Same goes for #44. Leave the kids alone. Hats off to both teams on fantastic seasons.
Rocket Fuel
I’m a mamk fan through and through. But last year mamk players humiliated themselves by getting DQ at the end of the game. And 18 year olds are young men. Some 18 year olds are at west point as students at the ready to die for this country. So let’s not call them kids if they’re 18 year old high school seniors. A couple players from etb took the bait and embarrassed themselves and their team and section one and it may live on forever if MSG varsity chooses to air it. They may edit it. 5 is lucky he wasn’t DQed. If hexwas he’d miss the next 6 games of a spring sport or possibly not walk at graduation.
Suffern played it perfectly, whenever etb got heated, suffern would smile and point to the scoreboard. Suffern didn’t trash talk, they pointed to the scoreboard after obvious attempts by etb to get chippy.
I love how the etb players are supposed to be so much better than suffern but can only muster up one goal. You had your chance to shine, that chance was not only blown, but etb (because of only a couple players) showed to be undisciplined and selfish. Broke a locker door at west point? Yeah, classy.
Old School Mountie
*You don’t like the trash talk…ignore it.
*You don’t like the score…change it.
*You go down 6-1…deal with it.
*You don’t want to be embarrassed on MSG Varsity…behave yourself.
*Your players start to lose control…be a coach and handle it.
*If, (and I hope it’s not true), an ETB player damaged property at West Point of all places, he and his parents should be made to pay for the repairs. You are given the privilege of playing at that facility and you conduct yourself in that manner, shame on you.
S.W.
swag is NOT a loser
Suffern S Boy
SWAG SIT DOWN LITTLE BOY PASS ME WHATEVER YOUR DRINKING MAH DUDE !
BUT FOR REAL ETB LOST THATS IT
AND
SWAG IS A BUM
Spy Report
Section one coach. If u saw the game, u would be very disappointed in your players.
Eagle
I do not recall many “late hits” from #5 most of them were just clean hits. Nobody can deny that there were some chippy plays going on both ways but thats just the nature of the sport there are cheap shots in every game, emotions were running high and it resulted in some trash talking and frustration. Nobody was hurt except for the feelings of some of you bloggers apparently. Suffern played well and deserved to win.
S.W.
swag is NOT a bum
SEC 1
for real though if suffern does not have tyler etb is winning that game just sayin
HOCkey
He broke a locker door wow thats such a big deal sorry he has heart for the game and clearly his emotions got the better of him stop saying he is a bad player we all know its not true
ram
First off ETB probably has one of the best 1st lines in the state they don’t have the depth that suffern has a and thats a fact. everyone that is complaining about the game getting heated means they have never played a competitive sport in their life this happens and both sides were obviously trash talking. i also didnt know we were talking about ballet here we are talking about hockey get over it.
Well said O.S.M. and RF. Too bad the etb bloggers cant get a grip on what transpired at West Point tonight. ETB coaches did not take control of the situation at all. I know for a fact that one of the Suffern kids got sat by the coach after he ran his mouth. ETB coaches should have done the same. Once again . . . a clueless and classless group.
Etb
Look at ETB throughout the playoffs they are (ctually…were!) a dirty team. They took more penalties than any other team in the tournament. They took 9 against clarkstown alone! Bad sportsmanship, bad leadership, bad coaching.
S.W.
swag does NOT have a bed time
Spy Report
Sure sounds like etb parents are trying to do damage control. WP lost by 4. Mamk lost by 3. Etb blown out by 5.
Most of the etb players were fine, played hard. But two or three couldn’t deal with being shown what team hockey looks like and lost it. I sure hope the locker room door at west point being broken is a rumor. If its not, that kid should be severely reprimanded. And perhaps should seek counseling, im serious.
Mr. 77 & SWAG = In denial, loser & Bum. lololololololololololololol
Mr.77
This is a fact i just looked it up in my library…..”anyone with a 5 point lead is going to keep their cool if it was suffern in etbs position they would have been doing the same stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!” word for word.
Spy Report
Saying a kid has heart because he broke a locker room door at west point is one of the most insanely idiotic statements ever made. Everyone who read that is now stupider for having read it. May god have mercy on your soul.
Suffern would never be in ETBs position, Mr. 77. By the way, Mr. 77 & SWAG = LOSER!
Spy Report
How can that etb first line be the best in the state, and barely do anything in the biggest game? Enough already. They had their chance. That chance was blown. Suffern gets all bragging rights in every category.
Swag
@rich he isnt my friend, friends dnt speek to friends that way
ETB
Your the man
Suffern S Boy
ok ram i see you , big mistake lil boy big mistake…
Just Saying
Spy Report, before you start with your, this one did this and this one did that, let’s both agree that ETB kicked the you know what out of WP and Mamo. Second, they didn’t sit back and not try to score like the other teams did. Anyone who saw this game, if they are honest, saw ETB have a bunch of oportunities and did not cash in. suffern finished theirs and the eagles did not.
Suffern, you are one hell of a team. Well coached, disciplined, and had a great game plan. You took away the front of the net from the eagles and kept them to the outside. Great job and congrats! You deserved the win.
Number 5. Got a little crazy. Please , by no means feel this is the way this kid plays. he usually leaves it all on the ice. I’m not forgiving what he did, it was down right, I don’t know, ok, stupid. same with 44. Very unlike him and yes, stupid.
A shout out to 8 and 20. Boys, you carried us all year long and should hold your heads high. You both played a great game and good luck to you in the future.
Suffern 18 and 12. You two battled our first line and were just outstanding.
i just don’t unsderstand why etb contunues to talk trash. you lost. get over it
blogger 1
ram – im pretty sure something you said there is going to get you in trouble , you really messed up brother
btw great game
Sec12011
Uncalled for ram.come on man somebody could take that serious
ram
people are taking the blogs way to seriously most of the people here are joking including myself its actually funny why people are bad mouthing everybody its high school hockey get over it
Spy Report
Etb beat mamk by 3.
Suffern beat etb by 5.
Suffern beat mamk by 3. Nobody from mamk pulled any cheap crybaby crud.
If etb kicked the crud out of mamk by three, what did suffern just do to etb on MSG tv no less? By 5. With one goal waived off which was a poor call.
On the ice
I’m not really sure why everyone is freaking out. Yes, #5 and #44 were clearly upset, and didn’t act in an acceptable fashion but they didn’t do anything that makes then worthy of such public criticism. They are two very good players who lost their cool. Keep in mind that both of these players have played with a number of the suffern players like redgate and Sanchez. With regards to the rest of etb, they did act with complete class as they finished the game cleanly and didnt get angered when suffern started putting out their younger players. One must also keep in mind the incredible emotion in losing in a blowout like that, especially when the score was not reflective of the actual game. For guys like Palfrey, who had his 100th career goal waved off, I have infinite respect as he played hard every shift and acted with absolute class. To the rest of you on the blog, who are bashing a team for 2 minutes of unsportsmanlike from 2 players who were obviously very emotional after a game they thought they could win got out of hand, obviously you have never been on a rink before and should never be allowed to post such ridiculous comments. I truly wish suffern the best of luck, and to etb, who will be losing almost 15 seniors, don’t listen to these crazy upset parents, you were a phenomenal team to watch and will always he remembered for your ability to compete regardless of what people said, you will be missed.
Mtr.77
That was not a threat btw.
Suffern S Boy
@Mtr. 77
first of its MR not Mtr you idiot
second you read what i wrote you didnt hear what i spoke
if you want to try to make fun of someone through a blog do it write you moron
Suffern S Boy
right * my bad lol
S.W.
kid cant even read
Suffern S Boy
kid cant even write*
seriously?
For anybody who knows hockey, you should know how important momentum is. What happened exactly, was that Sufferns coach told Redgate to whine to the ref about crease violations… the play later was the goal by mcnamara on the point that was waved off. The ref would never have thought about calling a crease violation had suffern not whined so much. Suffern is a better hockey team than ETB its true. More depth, better goaltending, and a more disciplined team. But i strongly believe had ETB’s first goal counted and the team went into the first intermission tied, that would have completely changed the game. Adressing the attacks on certain ETB players… its a hockey game. If you dont want to see tough play and a few cheap shots, choose another sport. Its a section final, emotions are high.
#5 on etb is hoping to play junior A next year and very likely will
#44 on etb is either going to play Junior A, prep school, or in the NAHL
Redgate has good skill, but he is in no way the god you make him out to be @ginger.
palfrey doesnt even play travel hockey anymore and hes still faster and more lethal than any suffern forward.
Talk about teams and such, thats fine. When you attack certain players from in front of a computer screen when you have no idea what you’re talking about, thats more disgraceful than how you think the ETB players conducted themselves.
“Never get caught telling a hockey player it’s just a game. Never get caught trying to explain to him, all the things in the world that matter so much more. His mind might well acknowledge the truth to your point. but his soul will be powerless to accept it, considering the immensity of what he gives to the sport, the immeasurability of all it offers in return.
Nothing ever feels as perfect as a moment of flawlessness on the ice. No bond is strong as one that compels brothers to bleed for one another. Not many leaders are this versed in the craft of motivation. Not many pursuits can evoke such visions of brilliance. This is why it hurts so much when skill falls short of what the will desires. This is why it’s so unforgettable when absolute passion yields ultimate reward. And that’s all still just the start of what the game can do to you.
The stakes rise as their season continues from here. While you watch from a distance, remember what was validated up close. Hockey may in fact be just a game. But it’s also who they are.”...............end quote from the HBO series 24/7.
Big Poppa
I watched the game very intently, and here’s the best that I can say. I don’t know what types of players #5 and #44 generally are, but two things were obvious to me tonight: first, they’re both excellent players in terms of skill, and second, they both let their emotions get the best of them. The problem I have is that the coach should have recognized that they had shifted their focus from scoring to one of revenge, and that lack of discipline ultimately led to their team giving up an extra goal or two.
Suffern, of course, knows how to play in such a way that gets under the skin of the opponent. Having Redgate point out the crease violations to the ref is, to me, outstanding coaching and a way to help to win the game. Ultimately, it will only be called if that infraction actually happens, but to plant that seed in the minds of the ref is intelligent coaching. Schelling rarely gets enough credit for putting together a team first with players who all appear to be committed to a system rather than personal gain.
At the end of the day, despite the chippiness, trash talking, and blog posts, it was an excellent game, one in which ETB seemed to gain some momentum when they closed the gap to 3-1 and followed that with control of the game and some excellent scoring opportunities. Best of luck to Suffern; they have a real shot at a state title, and I hope they keep their focus on Saturday against Monroe-Woodbury so they can take yet another step toward achieving that goal.
Honors
I wonder if a players actions on and off the ice (in school) has any baring on the year end honors and awards.
I would think the way a player conducts himself as a representative of his school, team and community should count for something. Yes skills are important but being an example for younger players is equally important. Leadership should be stressed.
But it’s likely a popularity contest and base on points scored and coaches pet!
@Ginger
I hope you feel vindicated by your post. I happen to know almost all of the 94s that were on the ice today and their parents. Ive watch some since they we’re mites and ive seen them grow up and become men Some may have made a mistake today and will probably regret that they didnt do something more to change the results but It is what it is. To say this one won’t be playing any longer or that one isn’t is just ignorant. Funny you’re the adult.
Just remember this you marked your own child on this blog and the blog dosent forget. Hopefully in the future he doesn’t make a mistake and is the butt of obnoxious anonymous bloggers. Unfortunatly What comes around goes around
To Johnny Willie Kevin Mark Frankie, Ian x 2, Connar Danny… Good luck, all the best. Keep playing hard but also do well in school!
slapper
Teams, players and fans need to win gracefully and lose with respect.
5 hole
First of all, Congratulations to the 4 teams that made it here today. The 2 favorites won as predicted by many. I wanted to see 2 great games sadly I saw 4 periods. This year, last year, and the year before that same result Suffern wins, they are machine and they are the best of the best bar none. To beat them is nearly impossible, to tie them is rare and losing to them is common.
They Beat LP 6-1
Beat WP 7-1
Beat ETB 6-1-
That is incredible, Hats off to the best team Suffern.
Now ETB did something few have – entered the 2nd period down 1-0 almost 1-1 shot total even, that alone is an acheivement in itself. This is due to the play of # 5 / 20 / 8 / 44 and their goaltender. The game was great, then Suffern came out and did what they do best wear out teams with their strong deep bench – That was the difference. In the past years they dominated the shot totals, not true this year due to the play of some excellent as good as suffern players, problem is Suffern has more of them – Thats one reason why they won, well deserved expected win. The second reason EXPERIENCE, and boy did that show true in the 2nd and 3rd. Lastly Coaching and Discipline they have great coaches and disciplined players who know not to take the bad penalties that could put your team at risk. Great teams do this and find a way to win and Suffern is a great team. Good seeing everyone today.
The Scarsdale team was so impressive what a game you played you deserved to win as much as Pelham. You played amazing hockey so exciting to watch. Your goalie is great too. #16 you had one heck of a game. Turning point in that game was the goal that was called back due to a whistle no one heard. What a highlight goal that did not count.
Pelham this is your year go take what they took from YOU last year. You deserve it. # 10 on Pelham you are a big game player take your team to the promise land remeber THIS IS YOUR TIME!
Oh I almost forgot Josh B what a glove save on the first shot you faced that was HUGE!!
Oh Rocket Fuel I found out who you are from my ETB friend, he said you were Old and to leave you alone so I will..
Hockey Dad X3
If a rewind button existed I am sure many of us would use it for those times in our lives when for what ever reason we went down the wrong path of words or actions.
Lets just agree we watched these young men do their best, and as spectators thank them for an enjoyable hockey game. Time to move on….. Go Suffern & Pelham
hanson brothers
5 Hole your post was excellent except for the part of the goal that was scored after a whistle that no one heard. Please go to MSG varsity and WATCH the green light is on for the goal judge, which means the timer has stopped the clock as he HEARD a whistle, which means the red light cannot be put on. Just sayin if you paid attention you would have seen that, and the only player who did not stop was #16.
Maryanne
Not sure if Ginger marked her son and also her nephew on a prior blog, pretty sure they aren’t related, maybe @Ginger should go back and read the blog again
sorry no excuse
Weather its a regular season game or a game of that importance sportsmanship is a MAJOR part of high school sports. MAJOR part. No excuses no saying that the offender “has heart” and thats why it happened. So the kids who acted properly in both games don`t care as much or don`t have as much heart? I doubt it
Ginger
Have gotten feedback from family, sons, nephews and x-friends and will serve a 40 year suspension and rome the desserts of Tibet in isolation.
Ginger
meant desert where I will eat desserts
sportsmanship
Sportsmanship. In light of yesterdays embarrassing division 1 ending all you need to do is look at Suffern and Pelham in Utica. Suffern got screwed twice in the STATE championships, yet you do not see any craziness after that game. Nobody was more obviously screwed last year then Pelham in the STATE SEMI FINAL and no coaches or players went crazy. Take a lesson
In defense of Ginger (to the person who posted as @ginger), I know who he is and who his son is. He never earmarked his son on the blog. I have seen him heap praise onto some Suffern kids, but the kids he praises are others on the team, not his son.
really
Rocket fuel needs to learn the rules. ETB in the crease look on MSG for highlight, Suffern the net was off prior to them scoring. Rule 6.10.3 situation A.
Rocket Fuel
@really
Let’s watch the game and see for ourselves as to if the refs made the right calls. I thought sufferns was called off for skate kicking it in. I did not notice a net coming off prior to the goal.
Researcher
I have been researching these blogs, not just yours, but many across the country writing a paper on how parents act in high school varsity sports. Let me say, I am no longer writing this because of how much it angers me. Let me also say i am in my mid 20s and not a HS student. I am not talking about your discussions on the actual games, but more how you all attack these students. Across America (if maybe you got off the blog, and turned on CNN) are committing suicide because of bullying. Let me tell you all something, after reading how you all write about these kids (and yes high school students are still kids) it is not only disheartening, but just plain sad. Yes, a HIGH SCHOOL student lost his cool, and has to live with that (and re-watch it, as so many of you are excited about) but isn’t that enough? Not just this kid, I have watched all of you talk trash about kids over and over, you wanna talk about the fact that they had a bad game, fine, but leave it at that. You think that what you say doesn’t matter because its about the “sport”. Check the stats, it does make an impact on these KIDS. Grow up all of you, its pathetic. Take your kids to dinner instead of sitting here reading the blogs with them, believe me it will go a long way.
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It’s a shame etb embarrassed themselves in the third period. Lost their cool. You’ll see it on MSG varsity tomorrow night unless they edit it out. They embarrassed section one.
You hate to hear that. You need to accept defeat with as much class as you enjoy winning.
Nice Job Mike… Thanks. I’ll be covering the Massena vs. Thousand Islands/Alex Bay Section 10 Division 1 final tomorrow night… about 8:15 on 1340wmsa.com, if you want to check in once in a while. The Division two final, Salmon River vs. Ogdensburg at 5:30 should be on ckonfm.com.
Both teams had goals waived off. I thought they were both bad calls, especially sufferns. The puck hit the kids skate as he was driving to the net, he did not guide it in or kick it. So it was a wash as far as that was concerned. ETB had decent chances in the first period, they could not capitalize. Obviously the ETB 3 were frustrated as they could not connect and score off Stark who played really well. Suffern kept most ETB shots to the perimeter as expected, Sufferns shots were much higher percentage type shots.
HOpefully MSG lvarsity edits out the ridiculous display by an ETB player who totally lost it, screaming at the official, screaming at a Suffern player, totally animated, slamming doors. Ridiculous and makes section one look bad when things like that happen, especially if it is aired.
So after 22 games we finally got to see ETB with their best players play Suffern. The result was exactly as expected. The high powered offense could only score one goal. And the line that was supposed to be as good as sufferns first line…. was not today.
Congrats to the other ETB players who had a real good season, nothing to be ashamed of getting to west point. They were definitely the second best team in D1 this year.
To all four teams on a great day of hockey. Suffern did a nice clean job handling ETB. Suffern and Pelham repeat as Section Champs which is amazing. For Suffern thats three Section Championships in a row and 6 out of the last eight years? For Pelham its three wins in the last four years at the Point all one goal wins and all games won in third period. Three trips to Uitca in the last four years. Pelham has now won 3 Sectional titles out of the last four years and 5 out of the last eight?
What a joke. ETB players and coaches were embarrassing to watch. Need to lose with dignity. They did not represent themselves, their school or the section well at all. Good riddance glad to see you go.
are what win at this level. ETB has a number of kids that are strong players, but they aren’t committed to a common system.
st.anthony had to work in game 2 against st.joe today
st.ant 5, st.joe 3
good for st.joe’s giving them a game and working for it
st.ant vs. (team from buffalo – anyone know?) next sunday march 4 at nassau 7pm right after devils-isles game at 3
All due respect but today of all days nobody cares about chshl teams from Staten Island or Long Island
Once again Stark was solid, I thought that Suffern was more skilled throughout the lineup.
ETB #5 totally lost it – probable not used to playing that level of a game and all the internal games that go on – Suffern #18 baited him and boy did he swallow the bait – what a clown – I hope that it isn’t edited by MSG so he has the opportunity to see how bad he looked – I must give him props for making up his mind and continuing to yell and make a jacka$$ out of himself until the ref tossed him – Don’t know for a fact but was told he also broke the locker room door.
ETB # 44 also deserves recognition for slashing a few Suffern players and making head contact – especially classy act coming out of the penalty box and getting a second penalty a few seconds later.
Third negative comment – The ETB coaching staff must have seen the melt down and should have called timeout and controlled their players – I’m not sure how many of the ETB kids play travel/Juniors but they didn’t look to good tonight. ETB showed that they aren’t used to playing at that level and with 10 minutes left were just looking to inflict pain/injuries to Suffern.
Just want to recognize #8 and #20 for ETB – they both played well and clearly have skill.
As far as the refs they had nothing to do with the outcome of the game. Did they miss a call – absolutely – all you can ask for is the game to be called evenly and it was.
@ Observations
Been a long time since I played competitive sports – are you kidding me – trash talking is part of the game – You have to control yourself – if you react like a jacka$$ it is only going to get worse.
I assume that is the last competitive hockey game #44 and #5 will play – best of luck in the future.
None of you know what your talking about its high school hockey. mind your own business and #5 did that cause he has heart for the game. He was angry because of what was going on and what the score was really most of you commenting are parents and if this is what you do is bad mouth kids, its sad
The kids on ETB that were showing their a** and playing like thugs were the captains no less. Great leadership . . . classless group from the coaches on down. Adios muchachos and hope you enjoyed your final high school hockey minutes watching from the penalty box.
I’m fine with trash talking in a close game but when you’re up 6-1, it’s pretty classless. It’s funny you say that because #44’s junior team, metro moose, out of the met jr league beat redgates junior team, the jersey hitmen, earlier in the year. Redgates a good player but he’s not this superior player a lot of you make him out to be.
People seem to forget that you are talking about a bunch of 17 and 18 year old kids and saying that they “will never play competitive hockey again” That is just as classless if not more classless than the actions of the players themselves
Anyone remember what WOJO from Mamo did last year to the ref after the loss to New Ro. These kids are kids, they get fired up and make mistakes. Talking smack is part of the game, and everyone does it. Sanchez and the Suffern kids, have more ability to do it, because they can back it up. Its part of the game, but kids make mistakes, sadly it was 5 and 44’s last mistakes they will make on the ice.
@Observation
One and only one question – is #44 in the same league as Redgate? If you think so I will be able to determine your expertise – one other question does #44 actually play or is he the water boy?
5 for etb is a better player than any of sufferns players…he will play at a very high level…also 44 is a great player- nuff said , swag
Suffern was the best D1 team in Sec 1 from day 1…no one disagrees
Ginger are you the nut who was going on about her son the great defenseman last week?
Regarding your last idiotic post, it is hockey not charm school…give it a rest. You sound like a Mahopac parent…”our players and perfect angels and everyone else is a classless bum who is not worthy to be on the ice with my little darling”...you are pathetic
Not saying he is in the same league as redgate, I just find it funny how you say redgate is a lot better when #44 plays on a better junior team…
@ SWAG
5 was awful and 44 wasn’t much better. They may play Juniors but not much further.
Go Mounties…Willie showed up big time..starkie not only played solid but had time to tweet during the game(jk but check the timeline). Sad that ETB resorted to cheap shots at the end. Not the way I bet they want to be remembered
HS Hky Fan
Thank you for the feed back – it hurts to think that you think I’m pathetic.
Again, Niagara Wheatfield shuts out defending state champ Willy North 4-0 in Div 1 and Div 2 there will be no rematch for Pelham. Kenmore East destroys WillyEast 9-2. I think they are now the favorites to win Div 2 Title. When Willy East came down to play in Suffern tourney in Jan I thought they looked good and would make a run at the title. Oh well looks like Kenmore E, Salmon River and Pelham will shoot it out.
FOOLS ALL OF YOU!!! these are kids and they have a lot of emotions going on in their bodies. #5 is a great player and #44 is a above average player too…..ginger keep thinking your kid is a little prince his whole life and see where that takes him.
sincerely Mr. 77
swag
please stop drinking the cool-aid
#5 was probably mad because he was either
on the ice or in the box when suffern scored he was more interested in giving late hits so his friends in the stands could cheer for him than play D the way he is supposed to. very selfish player and no respect for his teammates or his coach. etb was taking runs at suffern d all afternoon & no one retailated because they knew they would be on the bench. #5 needs to understand “it’s not about me – its about us”
Gettem mr 77 !
@ Mr. 77
Sorry you won’t get to watch your son play anymore HS hockey. Tough loss but ADIOS and this was ETB’s last chance of ever making any noise in the section.
SWAG = LOSER. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
I like my cool aid, but 5 is a great player, do not take anything away from his game..he lost his cool, it happens- stop attacking a kid the way you guys are..
On a lighter note, tyler stark is an amazing goalie
It’s a real shame that people on this blog feel they have the right to criticize these players so openly. They are high school players who put their heart into high school hockey and left it on the ice tonight. I wasn’t there, so I don’t know exactly what happened, but I do know that the emotions those kids must have been feeling were exponentially intense. I coached #5, and what I can tell you is he’s a GREAT kid, and a great player. Same goes for #44. Leave the kids alone. Hats off to both teams on fantastic seasons.
I’m a mamk fan through and through. But last year mamk players humiliated themselves by getting DQ at the end of the game. And 18 year olds are young men. Some 18 year olds are at west point as students at the ready to die for this country. So let’s not call them kids if they’re 18 year old high school seniors. A couple players from etb took the bait and embarrassed themselves and their team and section one and it may live on forever if MSG varsity chooses to air it. They may edit it. 5 is lucky he wasn’t DQed. If hexwas he’d miss the next 6 games of a spring sport or possibly not walk at graduation.
Suffern played it perfectly, whenever etb got heated, suffern would smile and point to the scoreboard. Suffern didn’t trash talk, they pointed to the scoreboard after obvious attempts by etb to get chippy.
I love how the etb players are supposed to be so much better than suffern but can only muster up one goal. You had your chance to shine, that chance was not only blown, but etb (because of only a couple players) showed to be undisciplined and selfish. Broke a locker door at west point? Yeah, classy.
*You don’t like the trash talk…ignore it.
*You don’t like the score…change it.
*You go down 6-1…deal with it.
*You don’t want to be embarrassed on MSG Varsity…behave yourself.
*Your players start to lose control…be a coach and handle it.
*If, (and I hope it’s not true), an ETB player damaged property at West Point of all places, he and his parents should be made to pay for the repairs. You are given the privilege of playing at that facility and you conduct yourself in that manner, shame on you.
swag is NOT a loser
SWAG SIT DOWN LITTLE BOY PASS ME WHATEVER YOUR DRINKING MAH DUDE !
BUT FOR REAL ETB LOST THATS IT
AND
SWAG IS A BUM
Section one coach. If u saw the game, u would be very disappointed in your players.
I do not recall many “late hits” from #5 most of them were just clean hits. Nobody can deny that there were some chippy plays going on both ways but thats just the nature of the sport there are cheap shots in every game, emotions were running high and it resulted in some trash talking and frustration. Nobody was hurt except for the feelings of some of you bloggers apparently. Suffern played well and deserved to win.
swag is NOT a bum
for real though if suffern does not have tyler etb is winning that game just sayin
He broke a locker door wow thats such a big deal sorry he has heart for the game and clearly his emotions got the better of him stop saying he is a bad player we all know its not true
First off ETB probably has one of the best 1st lines in the state they don’t have the depth that suffern has a and thats a fact. everyone that is complaining about the game getting heated means they have never played a competitive sport in their life this happens and both sides were obviously trash talking. i also didnt know we were talking about ballet here we are talking about hockey get over it.
Well said O.S.M. and RF. Too bad the etb bloggers cant get a grip on what transpired at West Point tonight. ETB coaches did not take control of the situation at all. I know for a fact that one of the Suffern kids got sat by the coach after he ran his mouth. ETB coaches should have done the same. Once again . . . a clueless and classless group.
Look at ETB throughout the playoffs they are (ctually…were!) a dirty team. They took more penalties than any other team in the tournament. They took 9 against clarkstown alone! Bad sportsmanship, bad leadership, bad coaching.
swag does NOT have a bed time
Sure sounds like etb parents are trying to do damage control. WP lost by 4. Mamk lost by 3. Etb blown out by 5.
Most of the etb players were fine, played hard. But two or three couldn’t deal with being shown what team hockey looks like and lost it. I sure hope the locker room door at west point being broken is a rumor. If its not, that kid should be severely reprimanded. And perhaps should seek counseling, im serious.
Soon “mah dude”
were all friends here
Mr. 77 & SWAG = In denial, loser & Bum. lololololololololololololol
This is a fact i just looked it up in my library…..”anyone with a 5 point lead is going to keep their cool if it was suffern in etbs position they would have been doing the same stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!” word for word.
Saying a kid has heart because he broke a locker room door at west point is one of the most insanely idiotic statements ever made. Everyone who read that is now stupider for having read it. May god have mercy on your soul.
Suffern would never be in ETBs position, Mr. 77. By the way, Mr. 77 & SWAG = LOSER!
How can that etb first line be the best in the state, and barely do anything in the biggest game? Enough already. They had their chance. That chance was blown. Suffern gets all bragging rights in every category.
@rich he isnt my friend, friends dnt speek to friends that way
Your the man
ok ram i see you , big mistake lil boy big mistake…
Spy Report, before you start with your, this one did this and this one did that, let’s both agree that ETB kicked the you know what out of WP and Mamo. Second, they didn’t sit back and not try to score like the other teams did. Anyone who saw this game, if they are honest, saw ETB have a bunch of oportunities and did not cash in. suffern finished theirs and the eagles did not.
Suffern, you are one hell of a team. Well coached, disciplined, and had a great game plan. You took away the front of the net from the eagles and kept them to the outside. Great job and congrats! You deserved the win.
Number 5. Got a little crazy. Please , by no means feel this is the way this kid plays. he usually leaves it all on the ice. I’m not forgiving what he did, it was down right, I don’t know, ok, stupid. same with 44. Very unlike him and yes, stupid.
A shout out to 8 and 20. Boys, you carried us all year long and should hold your heads high. You both played a great game and good luck to you in the future.
Suffern 18 and 12. You two battled our first line and were just outstanding.
Great job by both. Bring it home Mounties.
Etb lost ok stop talking now
i just don’t unsderstand why etb contunues to talk trash. you lost. get over it
ram – im pretty sure something you said there is going to get you in trouble , you really messed up brother
btw great game
Uncalled for ram.come on man somebody could take that serious
people are taking the blogs way to seriously most of the people here are joking including myself its actually funny why people are bad mouthing everybody its high school hockey get over it
Etb beat mamk by 3.
Suffern beat etb by 5.
Suffern beat mamk by 3. Nobody from mamk pulled any cheap crybaby crud.
If etb kicked the crud out of mamk by three, what did suffern just do to etb on MSG tv no less? By 5. With one goal waived off which was a poor call.
I’m not really sure why everyone is freaking out. Yes, #5 and #44 were clearly upset, and didn’t act in an acceptable fashion but they didn’t do anything that makes then worthy of such public criticism. They are two very good players who lost their cool. Keep in mind that both of these players have played with a number of the suffern players like redgate and Sanchez. With regards to the rest of etb, they did act with complete class as they finished the game cleanly and didnt get angered when suffern started putting out their younger players. One must also keep in mind the incredible emotion in losing in a blowout like that, especially when the score was not reflective of the actual game. For guys like Palfrey, who had his 100th career goal waved off, I have infinite respect as he played hard every shift and acted with absolute class. To the rest of you on the blog, who are bashing a team for 2 minutes of unsportsmanlike from 2 players who were obviously very emotional after a game they thought they could win got out of hand, obviously you have never been on a rink before and should never be allowed to post such ridiculous comments. I truly wish suffern the best of luck, and to etb, who will be losing almost 15 seniors, don’t listen to these crazy upset parents, you were a phenomenal team to watch and will always he remembered for your ability to compete regardless of what people said, you will be missed.
That was not a threat btw.
@Mtr. 77
first of its MR not Mtr you idiot
second you read what i wrote you didnt hear what i spoke
if you want to try to make fun of someone through a blog do it write you moron
right * my bad lol
kid cant even read
kid cant even write*
For anybody who knows hockey, you should know how important momentum is. What happened exactly, was that Sufferns coach told Redgate to whine to the ref about crease violations… the play later was the goal by mcnamara on the point that was waved off. The ref would never have thought about calling a crease violation had suffern not whined so much. Suffern is a better hockey team than ETB its true. More depth, better goaltending, and a more disciplined team. But i strongly believe had ETB’s first goal counted and the team went into the first intermission tied, that would have completely changed the game. Adressing the attacks on certain ETB players… its a hockey game. If you dont want to see tough play and a few cheap shots, choose another sport. Its a section final, emotions are high.
#5 on etb is hoping to play junior A next year and very likely will
#44 on etb is either going to play Junior A, prep school, or in the NAHL
Redgate has good skill, but he is in no way the god you make him out to be @ginger.
palfrey doesnt even play travel hockey anymore and hes still faster and more lethal than any suffern forward.
Talk about teams and such, thats fine. When you attack certain players from in front of a computer screen when you have no idea what you’re talking about, thats more disgraceful than how you think the ETB players conducted themselves.
“if you want to try to make fun of someone through a blog do it write you moron” would of been the blog quote of the year, nice fix on that SSB..
Congrats Suffern, 20 year anniversary of the last State Champion would make this a year to remember,best of luck.
Pelham / Scarsdale highlights are up on MSG V for those who care.
Thank you Mike.
#5 and # 44- you guys are good at hockey, but seriously fight me off the ice.
how was the suffern goal that was waived off a bad call? from where i was sitting the net was knocked off before the puck went in.
“Never get caught telling a hockey player it’s just a game. Never get caught trying to explain to him, all the things in the world that matter so much more. His mind might well acknowledge the truth to your point. but his soul will be powerless to accept it, considering the immensity of what he gives to the sport, the immeasurability of all it offers in return.
Nothing ever feels as perfect as a moment of flawlessness on the ice. No bond is strong as one that compels brothers to bleed for one another. Not many leaders are this versed in the craft of motivation. Not many pursuits can evoke such visions of brilliance. This is why it hurts so much when skill falls short of what the will desires. This is why it’s so unforgettable when absolute passion yields ultimate reward. And that’s all still just the start of what the game can do to you.
The stakes rise as their season continues from here. While you watch from a distance, remember what was validated up close. Hockey may in fact be just a game. But it’s also who they are.”...............end quote from the HBO series 24/7.
I watched the game very intently, and here’s the best that I can say. I don’t know what types of players #5 and #44 generally are, but two things were obvious to me tonight: first, they’re both excellent players in terms of skill, and second, they both let their emotions get the best of them. The problem I have is that the coach should have recognized that they had shifted their focus from scoring to one of revenge, and that lack of discipline ultimately led to their team giving up an extra goal or two.
Suffern, of course, knows how to play in such a way that gets under the skin of the opponent. Having Redgate point out the crease violations to the ref is, to me, outstanding coaching and a way to help to win the game. Ultimately, it will only be called if that infraction actually happens, but to plant that seed in the minds of the ref is intelligent coaching. Schelling rarely gets enough credit for putting together a team first with players who all appear to be committed to a system rather than personal gain.
At the end of the day, despite the chippiness, trash talking, and blog posts, it was an excellent game, one in which ETB seemed to gain some momentum when they closed the gap to 3-1 and followed that with control of the game and some excellent scoring opportunities. Best of luck to Suffern; they have a real shot at a state title, and I hope they keep their focus on Saturday against Monroe-Woodbury so they can take yet another step toward achieving that goal.
I wonder if a players actions on and off the ice (in school) has any baring on the year end honors and awards.
I would think the way a player conducts himself as a representative of his school, team and community should count for something. Yes skills are important but being an example for younger players is equally important. Leadership should be stressed.
But it’s likely a popularity contest and base on points scored and coaches pet!
I hope you feel vindicated by your post. I happen to know almost all of the 94s that were on the ice today and their parents. Ive watch some since they we’re mites and ive seen them grow up and become men Some may have made a mistake today and will probably regret that they didnt do something more to change the results but It is what it is. To say this one won’t be playing any longer or that one isn’t is just ignorant. Funny you’re the adult.
Just remember this you marked your own child on this blog and the blog dosent forget. Hopefully in the future he doesn’t make a mistake and is the butt of obnoxious anonymous bloggers. Unfortunatly What comes around goes around
To Johnny Willie Kevin Mark Frankie, Ian x 2, Connar Danny… Good luck, all the best. Keep playing hard but also do well in school!
Teams, players and fans need to win gracefully and lose with respect.
First of all, Congratulations to the 4 teams that made it here today. The 2 favorites won as predicted by many. I wanted to see 2 great games sadly I saw 4 periods. This year, last year, and the year before that same result Suffern wins, they are machine and they are the best of the best bar none. To beat them is nearly impossible, to tie them is rare and losing to them is common.
They Beat LP 6-1
Beat WP 7-1
Beat ETB 6-1-
That is incredible, Hats off to the best team Suffern.
Now ETB did something few have – entered the 2nd period down 1-0 almost 1-1 shot total even, that alone is an acheivement in itself. This is due to the play of # 5 / 20 / 8 / 44 and their goaltender. The game was great, then Suffern came out and did what they do best wear out teams with their strong deep bench – That was the difference. In the past years they dominated the shot totals, not true this year due to the play of some excellent as good as suffern players, problem is Suffern has more of them – Thats one reason why they won, well deserved expected win. The second reason EXPERIENCE, and boy did that show true in the 2nd and 3rd. Lastly Coaching and Discipline they have great coaches and disciplined players who know not to take the bad penalties that could put your team at risk. Great teams do this and find a way to win and Suffern is a great team. Good seeing everyone today.
The Scarsdale team was so impressive what a game you played you deserved to win as much as Pelham. You played amazing hockey so exciting to watch. Your goalie is great too. #16 you had one heck of a game. Turning point in that game was the goal that was called back due to a whistle no one heard. What a highlight goal that did not count.
Pelham this is your year go take what they took from YOU last year. You deserve it. # 10 on Pelham you are a big game player take your team to the promise land remeber THIS IS YOUR TIME!
Oh I almost forgot Josh B what a glove save on the first shot you faced that was HUGE!!
Oh Rocket Fuel I found out who you are from my ETB friend, he said you were Old and to leave you alone so I will..
If a rewind button existed I am sure many of us would use it for those times in our lives when for what ever reason we went down the wrong path of words or actions.
Lets just agree we watched these young men do their best, and as spectators thank them for an enjoyable hockey game. Time to move on….. Go Suffern & Pelham
5 Hole your post was excellent except for the part of the goal that was scored after a whistle that no one heard. Please go to MSG varsity and WATCH the green light is on for the goal judge, which means the timer has stopped the clock as he HEARD a whistle, which means the red light cannot be put on. Just sayin if you paid attention you would have seen that, and the only player who did not stop was #16.
Not sure if Ginger marked her son and also her nephew on a prior blog, pretty sure they aren’t related, maybe @Ginger should go back and read the blog again
Weather its a regular season game or a game of that importance sportsmanship is a MAJOR part of high school sports. MAJOR part. No excuses no saying that the offender “has heart” and thats why it happened. So the kids who acted properly in both games don`t care as much or don`t have as much heart? I doubt it
Have gotten feedback from family, sons, nephews and x-friends and will serve a 40 year suspension and rome the desserts of Tibet in isolation.
meant desert where I will eat desserts
Sportsmanship. In light of yesterdays embarrassing division 1 ending all you need to do is look at Suffern and Pelham in Utica. Suffern got screwed twice in the STATE championships, yet you do not see any craziness after that game. Nobody was more obviously screwed last year then Pelham in the STATE SEMI FINAL and no coaches or players went crazy. Take a lesson
In defense of Ginger (to the person who posted as @ginger), I know who he is and who his son is. He never earmarked his son on the blog. I have seen him heap praise onto some Suffern kids, but the kids he praises are others on the team, not his son.
Rocket fuel needs to learn the rules. ETB in the crease look on MSG for highlight, Suffern the net was off prior to them scoring. Rule 6.10.3 situation A.
@really
Let’s watch the game and see for ourselves as to if the refs made the right calls. I thought sufferns was called off for skate kicking it in. I did not notice a net coming off prior to the goal.
I have been researching these blogs, not just yours, but many across the country writing a paper on how parents act in high school varsity sports. Let me say, I am no longer writing this because of how much it angers me. Let me also say i am in my mid 20s and not a HS student. I am not talking about your discussions on the actual games, but more how you all attack these students. Across America (if maybe you got off the blog, and turned on CNN) are committing suicide because of bullying. Let me tell you all something, after reading how you all write about these kids (and yes high school students are still kids) it is not only disheartening, but just plain sad. Yes, a HIGH SCHOOL student lost his cool, and has to live with that (and re-watch it, as so many of you are excited about) but isn’t that enough? Not just this kid, I have watched all of you talk trash about kids over and over, you wanna talk about the fact that they had a bad game, fine, but leave it at that. You think that what you say doesn’t matter because its about the “sport”. Check the stats, it does make an impact on these KIDS. Grow up all of you, its pathetic. Take your kids to dinner instead of sitting here reading the blogs with them, believe me it will go a long way.