It was hot last week. Stupid hot. After the state open at Bethpage, I needed a break so I wrote hockey. If you missed it yesterday, here is the link to a story about Brett Pesce and Steve Santini.
Both a preparing to wear Team USA sweaters.
It’s not exactly breaking news, but we thought it was a significant moment. How often do we have two kids from the area playing at the national level. Is this a developing trend, maybe?
“Moving forward, I think we’re going to see more of it,” said Steve Santini, who owns Brewster Ice Arena, co-founded Apple Core, founded the Brewster Bulldog youth program and coached the Westchester Express and ESG teams. “With so many local rinks built up in the last 10-15 years, we are producing better players. In the past, Michigan, Minnesota and Boston were known for hockey, but in the past few years the tri-state area has really gotten better.”
There are details in the story about what’s next for both players.
Pesce isn’t likely to return to Sleepy Hollow/Irvington, but he’s got a younger brother coming into the program. Santini did NTDP orientation last week, and will be packing up and heading for Ann Arbor, Mich. at the end of next month.
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Congratulations to both players and all the best to these two fine young players. I am looking forward to this coming season. Does Suffern repeat? Does Mamaroneck and White Plains have the horses to catch Suffern? Is the ETB travel group ready to work as a team and challenge the big three? Is Pelham still smarting from that criminal call in Utica last season and are they ready to go? Is Rye going to be as strong as they were last year? Is Jay ready to take the next step? How about Brewster?
Who effin cares! It’s HOT out!
Hasn’t Suffern lost some kids to Jrs. moving?
PS Game schedules are up at section 1 website.
Is the coach out at Mahopac? Heard he’s going to Lakeland.
Congratulations to both players well deserved recognition. Good luck to our locals.
Brett Pesce UNH (Irvington)
Matt Willows UNH (Clarkstown)
Steve Santini BC (Putnam)
Bennet Caroccio Yale (Armonk-Andover)
Brad Peltz Yale (Bedford-Avon Old Farms)
Danny New Providence (White Plains-Avon Old Farms)
Rui UCONN (White Plains-NAHL)
Hagen St. Lawrence (ETB-Choate)
Mike Ciotti Trinity (ETB-AJHL)
Jake Turrin Amherst (RCDS, Milton Academy)
Himelson Clarkson (MW, NJ Hitmen)
Monohan Westen CT ( MW, NJ Hitmen)
Stephanik Quinnipianc (MW, Avalanche)
Dont be suprised to see Pesce playing with his brother this year. I remember the SHI coach from TZ, he used to say to his players that when they are make team USA then they can miss games, how ironic…....
Anyone hear anything about the D2 state quarterfinal issue for the coming season now that there is no Section 9 team? Are they definitely going to do an outbracket tournament? Anybody know when that decision would get made if it hasn’t been made already?
Ironic- I think Pesce playing Hitmen. Their coach says no the HS hockey.
I don’t think there is a Junior A rule, each team probably only has 2 or 3 HS players anyway, Santini and Prunesti did both last year.
I think some Suffern kids are playing with Hitmen teams as well,
I think the travel, HS situation is just about over now, no one cares or takes offense to players missing games, practice, etc.
Times have changed, and its really about playing the best level you can, I totally understand missing HS to play high level Midget AAA National or above, I still don’t understand missing HS to play for Midget AAA American or below.
I don’t really see the point of missing HS to play Junior B (with virtually no exposure to college coaches), either. Unless you are in 10th grade and see that Jr B year as a step to get to Jr A (where you will get looked at by college coaches) during your HS years. But, you could get good travel hockey experience as a soph playing CT split season Midget Minor AAA or even Midget Major AA and still have a HS season. Jr B is clearly higher level hockey than in HS, but to do all that travel in formative HS years to play at arenas with empty stands and miss playing in front of a crowd at home??
That is why I think many of the local Jr b programs have become “HS friendly”. The Jr B coaches realize the jr B product not something many players would give up HS hockey for.
I would love to see the JR A players making HS games. Makes them more interesting. But, that requires some cooperation between the Jr A and HS coaches, something that does not always exist.
Im putting Midget National AAA over Junior B,
I know they are younger, but anyone that can made a AAA National Team can make a Junior B team, Some junior B players could make a Midget AAA National team, but some others would make it only because they are much older.
I understand playing for a Hitmen Junior B team or an Applecore Junior B in the hopes that next year they would make the “A”, but I think its dilusional thinking…..I mean maybe there is a Hitmen Junor B player that was working hard last year thinking ok, I am devoted, maybe I will make the A, then here comes Brett Pesce and its back to the farm kid…...No knock on these Junior A players taking spots from the loyal kids….More of a message to those players who think that playing Junior B guarantees them a spot on A.
Travel.
I doubt that coaches and fellow teammates do not have an “issue” with players missing practice and games for Junior or Midget AAA. Maybe your coach doesnt but I would love to see any player ask Suffern – Shelling, Mamaroneck – Chap or any of the top programs in the area if they are “okay” with it.
Parcells kind of let this guy who wore number 56 do what he wanted as long as he showed up on Sunday. And boy did he.
Schelling will have to deal with that this year.
Pico,
A bit of a slippery slope on that comparison isnt it. Comparing high school sports and athletes with one of the greatest Giants. Yes, Parcels let him do as he wanted but he was also a professional athlete and had his fair of trouble as well. Is the example we want to set for character and responsibility that of if you are good enough, if you have enough talent that you can do whatever want? Have we given up the thought that high school sports transcends simply sport as is no longer about shaping character and men (women) for their future?
I am looking forward to seeing how coaches handle this issue this year. I mention it as an issue as it is one of the most discussed topics on this blog. As long as we are on that topic can the blog agree that regarding “travel players”:
• If your travel player(s) are not at a game and your team lost. Your team lost. No excuses that the travel players werent there and that you are better.
• If your travel players(s) are hurt, tired, burnt out and you lose a game..you still lost the game.
In other blog thoughts:
• The goalie is part of the team and a huge part of the team. “We would have won/lost except for the goalie” is often used as an excuse on the blog for a loss. First, dont blame a HS goalie solely for a loss as there is a team with him. That said, its a big position and a big role. The goalie is a part of the team. If you lose the game because of the goalie then you still lost the game. Please ask Vancouver about this regarding Tim Thomas.
Once again we revisit this topic. Todays hockey playing athlete/parent is different than most other athletes in other sports and from other eras. Todays hockey player/parent confuse themselves with individual sport athletes (tennis swimming etc). Not to bunch every travel player/parent with this new dynamic, but some feel no allegiance to any team other than their travel programs. They will justify missing high school events with several different rationales. one being that the high school team is weaker competition and for their individual development (and thats what its about for them) they are better served playing the travel. They also will criticize any of their high school team mates or parents who question the travel players special treatment or dedication by using the fact that they are the best players and the high school team needs them to win
You left a few other things out. Ice Hockey is the only high school sport in which this is done. I am somewhat confused at those parents who actually defend their childs preferential treatment. I could understand this at a higher level, say college, but in high school? Its certainly not a good life lesson to teach this type of thing. You cannot have everything, and if your travel team requires total committment and you do not have the time to do high school then thats the way it goes. I am surprised that parents allow this, instead of explaining to their child that if they join a team they need to follow the rules that everyone else on the team follows.
I don’t understand those that play on some decent junior or midget team over hs team. Hs puck is the real deal. When are the boys ever going to play for their community, friends, and family after high school? For alot of those kids, they’re not going to. In my point of view I would be able to pass up on a juniors game, one just like any other travel game ive ever played,but I would regret passing up a chance to play a game representing my school and community. Not only that but u can’t pass up on a chance to impress the chicks, or celly hard with the boys in front of your stacked crowd. U really can’t.
good points, but if you are “chasing the dream” you don`t see it that way. Parents and some kids only hear what they want to hear and always think they “have a shot”
Another local who has a shot at playing for a “national” team. Rye’s Katsuta wil attend camp for Japan U 20 national team. Japan is in the “second” group for international play. Don’t play the big boys (US, Canada, Russia, Sweden) in the tourney in North America, but play a bunch of the European national teams in a tourney in Poland.
HI!
So I guess we should get back to the teams at hand. Sleeper of the season….. the BIG C! Transfers! Freshman! Goalies! We’v got them all! ....... Oh yea and the all live in Clarkstown!!
Its coming!!! Hurricane CLARKSTOWN!
I guess we shouldn’t be talking HS hockey today and we should really focus on the big story:
I’m talking about the gem that Chris Capuano tossed last night. Dude was in control. Just slightly better last night than AJ
Can’t help thinking that LoHud is sitting in his living room in full rain gear with the Gorton fisherman’s cap on and everything…brand new Home Depot generator all fueled up…
stay safe everyone!
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The big c wil be good. Rivaling Suffern in a couple of years..
Still wish South and North existed.
Who are the big names on ctown. new tranfers? expect them to be average but best of luck
What will the great one at Suffern do with most of his top guys playing Juniors in different places .Cause playing for the almighty Suffern doesnt get you anywhere after HS,so take the chance in JRS ,you have a better chance to atleast get a look ,no one comes to watch Suffern.We will see what happens when they have a JR game on same day ,Schelling will forbid them from playing using scare tatics of being benched,but if you are 1 of his top guys that wont happen,he doesnt have big enough ones to sit top players cause he wants that elusive ship which he will never get.
Its all about him
Why would it be duplicitous, which you seem to be implying. Cannot someone just evolve and change policy?
Ten years ago no one played Juniors. Now with more respectable Jr. teams in the area, a reasoned person can deduce that its a different era…and these teams do offer good kids some exposure for college play.
..not that i have any idea or know this will be the case…
Bundy
I agree 100% ,but it just wont happen,not while this regime is here.With the couple of exceptions from Suffern who left the school to play high end JRS in the midwest ,and moved on to a higher level,it had nothing to do with playing at Suffern.
Thanks for the visions, Bigby, but that generator you mentioned was 2 leftover candles from the wedding favor box from many years ago sitting in my garage and a couple of flashlights. Amazingly no need for them as we never lost power (although we did take on some water). Thank god for that, as having no electricity when you have a 5-day-old baby who hasn’t even adjusted to it being slightly dark in the house, much less pitch black is a nightmare I have no interest in living through.
Oh, and the fact that I just discovered you are a Mets fan is saddening (although not really surprising) to me.
Bigby-
Since you are a Mets fan, I figured I would pass this along.
The Rockland Boulders just signed both Howard Johnson and his son. So if you want to see a 50-year-old HoJo and his 22-year-old son (who hit .220 at Pace last year) play against some low-level minor leaguers, get out and see a game.
Here’s the press release:
http://rocklandboulders.com/pressbox/features/index.html?article_id=152
I, also am a Mets fan. I might need to venture up to Rockland for more than a Suffern/
Mamo game at SOR.
The Boulder’s ball park is beautiful. Thank you Ramapo town taxpayers, although I’d have preferred a state of art Ice Rink..
Being a Met fan adds character (that’s fanspeak for “my team blows but what are ya gonna do”)
I always loved HoJo. The ball jumped off his bat, but he was wrapped so tight that they had to bat him 7th. I’ve seen him recently…looks like he could still hit.
Hey LoHud…that’s AWESOME news. Congrats on the new arrival. Hope everything is peaceful in the house.
Did you name your child “Bigby”?
Shayne Bingham (RCDS 11) earned the last spot on the Miami Ohio Varsity Ice Hockey team for the 2011-2012 season. This is great for Rye Country Day, Lohud Hockey and Shayne and his dad Gary Bingham, the coach. Although RCDS hasn’t always lived up to what everyone might expect with their own rink and good academics it is a really nice thing to see. Good luck to Shayne and congrats!
Attached Article from US Hockey Report
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In the Family Footsteps
Shayne Bingham, who graduated from Rye Country Day School in June, has been named to the hockey roster at Miami.
Bingham wrote head coach Rico Blasi over the summer and, upon getting on campus, was given a tryout, and offered the last spot on the Redhawks’ roster.
Bingham, who was the captain and leading scorer at Rye CD, was coached by his father, Gary Bingham, who played at Miami in the very early days of the school’s varsity hockey program, under their first coach, Steve Cady, for whom the school’s arena is named.
I was considering it, but I already named his older brother Bigby, so I didn’t want to run into a whole “George Foreman” thing. We went with “Baby LoHud” instead (since that’s what everyone at SOR was already calling him when they saw my wife walking around pregnant for the last nine months).
unless hes changed his name he does not appear on the roster. Maybe as someone who has a legacy thing since his dad went there they put him on as a practice player or maybe team manager? They do take kids to be team managers and they can skate at certain practices and help out with the team gear Which is good cause the team is really strong. Theres little chance he could make it or play as looking at the roster its all kids from the USHL and I doubt he played there but good luck to him
http://www.muredhawks.com/sports/m-hockey/mtt/mioh-m-hockey-mtt.html
2011-12 Ice Hockey Roster
Coaches
No. Last Name Name Height Ht. Wt. Position S/C eligibility Cl. Hometown – Last Team
4 weber will Will Weber 76 6-4 226 Defenseman Left 7 SR Gaylord, Mich. – Chicago (USHL)
5 schilling cameron Cameron Schilling 74 6-2 197 Defensemen Left 7 SR Carmel, Ind. – Indiana (USHL)
6 wideman chris Chris Wideman 70 5-10 181 Defenseman Right 7 SR St. Louis, Mo. – Cedar Rapids (USHL)
7 czarnik austin Austin Czarnik 68 5-8 142 Forward Right 1 FR Washington, Mich. – Green Bay (USHL)
10 wideman alex Alex Wideman 68 5-8 145 Forward Left 1 FR St. Louis, Mo. – Indiana (USHL)
12 tiesling patrick Patrick Tiesling 74 6-2 202 Forward Right 8 RS SR Rhinelander, Wisc. – Bowling Green (CCHA)
13 vogelhuber trent Trent Vogelhuber 73 6-1 195 Forward Right 7 SR Dublin, Ohio – Des Moines (USHL)
14 murphy cody Cody Murphy 70 5-10 185 Forward Left 1 FR Highwood, Ill. – Tri City (USHL)
15 paulazzo bryon Bryon Paulazzo 71 5-11 196 Forward Left 3 SO Redwood City, Calif. – Indiana (USHL)
16 mckenzie curtis Curtis McKenzie 74 6-2 207 Forward Left 5 JR Golden, B.C., CANADA – Penticton (BCHL)
18 smith reilly Reilly Smith 73 6-1 183 Forward Left 5 JR Mimico, Ont., CANADA – St. Michael’s (OJHL)
19 cook max Max Cook 74 6-2 183 Forward Right 3 SO Frankfort, Ill. – Indiana (USHL)
20 mullin jimmy Jimmy Mullin 71 5-11 163 Forward Right 1 FR Cincinnati, Ohio – Fargo (USHL)
21 mason steve Steve Mason 71 5-11 179 Forward Left 5 JR Tilburg, Netherlands – Nipawin (SJHL)
22 biggs tyler Tyler Biggs 75 6-3 210 Forward Right 1 FR Loveland, Ohio – USNTDP (USHL)
23 hirschfeld alden Alden Hirschfeld 73 6-1 206 Forward Right 7 SR Sylvania, Ohio – Mahoning Valley (NAHL)
24 kennedy garrett Garrett Kennedy 70 5-10 188 Forward/Defenseman Left 5 JR Brighton, Mich. – Indiana (USHL)
25 coleman blake Blake Coleman 70 5-10 191 Forward Left 1 FR Plano, Texas – Indiana (USHL)
26 hartman joe Joe Hartman 75 6-3 208 Defenseman Right 5 JR St. Cloud, Minn. – Indiana (USHL)
27 tomassoni matt Matt Tomassoni 70 5-10 170 Forward Right 7 SR Carol Stream, Ill. – Cedar Rapids (USHL)
28 paulides ben Ben Paulides 74 6-2 201 Defenseman Right 1 FR Los Gatos, Calif. – Youngstown (USHL)
30 reichard cody Cody Reichard 71 5-11 162 Goaltender Left 7 SR Celina, Ohio – Fairbanks (NAHL)
31 knapp connor Connor Knapp 78 6-6 225 Goaltender Left 7 SR York, N.Y. – Boston (EJHL)
32 saksa ben Ben Saksa 70 5-10 191 Goaltender Left 7 SR St. Clairsville, Ohio – Miami University Club
44 spinell steven Steven Spinell 74 6-2 208 Defenseman Right 5 JR Vernon Hills, Ill. – Fargo (USHL)
Coaches
Enrico Blasi – Head Coach
Brent Brekke – Associate Head Coach
Nick Petraglia – Assistant Coach
Brian Kaufman – Volunteer Assistant Coach
Matt Cady – Asst. Strength and Conditioning Coach
Iona Prep will win the CHSHL State Championship this year. Quote me.
Miami of Ohio- maybe the roster just needs to be updated. Looks like the coach gives non recruits a chance. One of the rosterd goalies came from the Miami club team.
no rcds player is making a big conference ncaa d1
i laughed out loud when i read that
i saw the iona-rcds game, and he took 3 stupid penalties (one resulting in the game-winner for iona) because he was behind the play/beaten/not strong
the guy who posted probably meant miami’s club team..
puck- The Peltz kid who played RCDS before transferring to Avon is currently on the Yale varsity hockey roster (DI ECAC). Yale spent much of last season ranked #1 in DI NCAA. Also, I think a RCDS player went on to become Yale’s captain about 10 years back.
rodeschini and burbilis from john jay playing d3.
It appears that Peltz appeared in one game last season for Yale
A few things.
1st. RCDS has actually turned out more Div 1 players, more college players and a few pros that most likely any other program in the area. Yes, they have a rink. In the Effinger years they were the top program in the area. Hands down even with the power house years of Rye, which would lose to RCDS in the “unofficial” scrimmages.
2nd. Local junior has not gotten better. Its gotten more diluted. There used to be one team Ramapo Jr. Rangers to play on. Now that one team that pulled kids from all over gets diluted by multiple teams claiming to be top Jr. Programs.
3. Exposure is exposure no matter how you cut it. That said. The commitment should always be to your high school team first and then your junior team. It sends a message also that you are there to play for your team, your friends and your classmates. Some lessons to be learned here. Chasing the dream is admirable, commendable and applauded. Every kid should chase their dreams to the fullest. Nobody should be criticized for that. However, how parents and players respect those on teams and the commitments that they make as well does not be recognized. Special treatment is not a “right” based on talent or the ability to win a game. That sends a terrible “character” example and should be corrected.
I believe in the Coach Bingham years at RCDS they have had multiple kids going Div 1 as well and contributing as well Campbell who while he did not graduate from RCDS was there for multiple years and won a cup with the bruins.
hs puck is a joke you clowns
With all the talk about the new Boulder stadium , I think a winter classic would be unbelieveable. Suffern/Mamaro with Iona /Burke and maybe Army home game.
yeah yeah I know finacially impossible but a nice thought.
R u kidding me??? Burke IONA ..that’s some bad hockey. They will have to pay people to watch that one!
A Burke / Iona game would be about 13-0…. Maybe an Iona vs Fordham/Pelham
I know kits still very early. However does anyone have any thoughts on the teams of this upcoming season?
How will Mamaroneck and White Plains be without their strong senior class?
How will New Rochelle be without Prunesti?
Will ETB be the new team to beat?
What does anyone know about this new D2 team?
And lastly, who is in the run for section 2 finals?
In that first sentence its supposed to say *its not kits.
Predictions-
I think WP is going to struggle without their seniors, the core seniors, Peeples, Lawrence, Broderick, played at least half of every meaningful game. They have some young talent, but I see them as middle of the pack D1. Mamaroneck will be fine, they will reload and I see them as either the #2 or #3 D1 team.
New Ro has a lot of good young players, but its hard to replace the best player in the section. I see them about like WP, top middle of D1.
No, ETB is not the team to beat in D1, Suffern is. That being said, if they can get their act together i.e. getting all players committed and playing defense, they have the pieces to challenge Suffern. Stull I see them very equal with Mamo as the #2 D1 team.
In D2, I don’t see anyone beating Pelham. In fact, I don’t see anyone in Section 1 D1 or D2 beating them.
Just my 2 cents, take it as you will.
I meant to say section1. Sorry I’m having serious typos today.
Hey Icehole have you ever been in Rink 1 at Sport-O-Rama? There’s your Winter Classic!
BTW, Nicholson Rocks!
Hey Sweet n’ Low – missed you on move in day.
Agree with you hockeyfan somewhat. The only constant thing you can always count on is that Suffern Pelham Mamaroneck and usually Rye will be there at the end. Suffern is still king in the area even if they lose a lot to graduation. Mamaroneck always has numbers and skill kids to fill in from the pipe line. Pelham is the interesting story. I saw them as over achievers last season, they were young with no seniors and they were balanced and smart but they only had a few star players. Pelham got a lot of mileage out of that group last season. This year they are expected to be successful so thats pressure for them. Rye will be good too. Rye will miss the goalie from last year but have enough pieces and the starter this year will be fine. Pelham has another very hard schedule this year and the teams play from the start of the season till the playoffs improved so much last year that I thought they might have been the second best division 2 team in the state during the playoffs so obviously the hard regular season schedule really paid off huge dividends. I expect Suffern and Pelham to repeat but you never know
Welles Crowther, Section 1 hockey and lax (Nyack), 9/11 hero (among many).
If you are not familar , or are, with this story, this is a great ESPN production. Take 13:49 minutes of this special week to watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwWzjjbIISw
Preseason rankings:
DI:
1. Suffern- Plenty of talent returns. Sounds like the coach may have to deal w/jrs conflicts.
2. Mamo- Always has the numbers. 2 solid goalies.
3. ETB- Lots of talent. Nothing new here. Can the coach get them to play as a team?
4. WP- Graduated a ton, but the coach always seems to rally this group. Good goalie.
Dark horse- RTH. I think the Titans will be solid this year, after a few forgettable seasons.
DII:
1. Pelham- May be one of the best DII teams in the state. Still, not a lock to get out of the Section.
2. Rye- Return a lot of young talent at forward that are all a year older. Have new goalie who will be fine. Maybe a little thin at D, but you can get by with 3 at the HS level.
3. Brewster- Will the talented sophs be able to manage travel conflicts (the ETB riddle). If so, if they can tighten up the D, the Bears could make noise in the playoffs.
4. Jay- A solid coach has put the program on solid footing. Too bad they have to play so may games in a weak conference.
Dark horse- Scarsdale. The young Raiders have taken their lumps the last few years. Those growing pains may pay dividends this coming season.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought one of the goalies from Mamo was leaving?
But other than that, Fanotgame I agree with your pre-season rankings, except for one thing. I would make New Ro the D1 dark horse instead. However its a very close call.
Bundy, saw that piece it was very touching.
Fan, those JR conflicts at Suffern will be like no others Schelling has ever had,plus players are starting to figure out along with parents that playing there means nothing when you are trying to get to next level,no matter what level it is.
awesome analysis Fanofthegame. History from last year in my view is that Pelham and Sffurens off the charts schedule made the difference for those teams during sectionals. When ever game on the schedule is a war it only helps in such a short regular season. The teams are playing 20 games and then go into a one game elimination as the heavy favorite as Suffern does every year, each opponent brings their A game, the schedule is so important. The lousy blow out games are a waste and actually hinder the teams progress. Suffern knows that when sectionals come around they have seen much better clubs in their regular season. I recall Pelham playing in one of the last weekends before sectionals upstate and had a couple of key guys injured against Salmon River in a 2-1 or 1-0 loss that must have been an extreme game to play. They came back from that weekend and won 6 in row, 5 of which were sectional or regional games and lost to Williamsville East on the post clanger
D1:
1) Suffern – Unless the junior conflicts pose a serious threat
2) ETB – if the group can work together I don’t see why not
3) Mamo – I don’t know much about 2011-12 Mamaroneck, so this one is more of a guess.
4) New Ro – Don’t underestimate the talent that this team has left
5) White Plains – Very good goaltender, however I see them struggling without seniors.
D2:
1) Pelham – Reilly and other seniors keep this group strong.
2) Rye – Strong, but definitely not strong enough to beat Pelham.
3) John Jay – Definitely a solid crew.
4) Brewster – Comparable to JJ
5) Scarsdale – Upcoming freshman could turn some heads.
West Point Matches – D1: Suffern, ETB
D2: Pelham, John Jay
My two cents.
D1
Suffern- Don’t care who left. Enough talent and coaching to win and stay on top of the standings. They stay number 1 until someone knocks them off.
ETB- Is this the year? Hearing very little to no travel conflicts. Top line may be best in D1 and D2. If all show up, can challange Suffern
Mamo- May have lost a lot, but have a great feeder program and returning players. Steady in nets, and behind the bench. Can surprise.
WP- Don’t count this team out. Played a few games last year without their top end talent and did well. That sent a nice message to all about returning team. One heck of a goalie in nets. Well coached.
D2
Pelham- Ton of returning talent (mirror copy of ETB). Well coached, brilliant defensively. Has a very efficient offense with a player of the year candidate at the helm.
Rye- Good front line and pretty quick if memory serves. Solid in nets and of course well coached. Agree with Fan, D is the weak link which can cause a problem against the bigger, quick team in sections.
Brewster or John Jay- Both can be 3 or 4. Both have a lot of talent and well coached. D needs work, but that can be said about a lot of teams. Take your pick here.
Player of the Year D1- either Palfrey or Luciano ETB
Player of the Year D2- Reilly Pelham
Just for kicks thought I’d make my best guess at this year’s all section team as well:
Forwards:
Redgate-Suffern
Sanchez-Suffern
Variano-WP
Palfrey-ETB
Luciano-ETB
Wegwerth-Brewster
Barnes-Carmel
Rogers-Rye
Reilly-Pelham
Bostwick-JJ
Conley-Mamo
Defense:
Landis-Pelham
Sherding-ETB
Scholer-Suffern
Sioufas-New Ro
Goalies:
Stark-Suffern
Ketchabaw- RTH
Thats a good start but I believe Mamaroneck Rye and certainly Pelham may have more than listed. Time will tell I gather. I think ETB depth is going to be a flaw for them. I like their first unit but after that there is a drop not seen on Suffern Mamaroneck Rye or Pelhams rosters. White Plains will be heard from and I liked the John Jay team last year too
when will people realize in suffern it is not only the players but the system. plenty of very good if not excellant players have come thru program most go onto play club hockey nothing higher. Schelling is able to get enough talent thru his commitment and dedication to always have more talent than the other teams. Any one of his coachs could be head man at any other program but stay. Imagine playing in a system where going to Utica is the goal not just the section.
Opinion- Is the Nicholas frosh lacing them up for the Raiders?
harvey will beat anyone in section 1 except suffern this year
and will take suffern to real talk
To hockeyfan…you should save that list and compare it at the end of the season…seems pretty solid. Sure there might be some injuries and or some players who come up out of nowhere. What about the other soph from Brewster?
To Honestly…I read your last post 15 times..I tried putting accents on different words…tried reading it in my Gandhi voice…I even tried to imagine possible typos…but I have no idea what it means.
lol Im saying Harvey will beat any section 1 team this year.
Harvey, similar to RCDS should whip the local high schools, they absolutely should with a rink on campus, the ability to get players from anywhere thats driving distance where as the public schools are stuck with the specific player pool that comes from the drawn lines of their school district. Iona is in the same boat except they do not have a rink on campus. It surprises me that the above mentioned have not really made a dent in years when it comes to beating the local high school teams. So having said that Harvey will not whip up any of the better public teams, and I doubt they would even schedule them
so have someone schedule us this this year and we are not able to recruit plus our entire high school is 200 kids 100 boys so yea the public schools do have more to chose from. Lets get a Harvey vs Pelham game at the ice hutch. watch what happens.
Hey hockey fan, Ketchabaw?? alot of better choices – Stangrone, Petrillo, Bunyon
Harvey are you kidding me? Isn’t you schools full of kids that no other schools want? i have seen some of your games last year and was not impressed at all
So play us if u think that. Different team this year. im talking cuz were gonna back it up but none of u chumps want a game
I knew it was a Harvey kid chirping. wish you the best of luck. Why would anyone want to play you unless they have to? You are not a team any of the publics or catholic teams would see in the playoffs. You are not in any elite league. I doubt any catholics, Iona Fordham or the high end publics Suffern Mamaroneck or Rye would waste a game against Harvey.
When was the last time Harvey beat a prominent public school program? Does anyone know?
Bigby- Other soph from Brewster Henderson may make it, although I’m not sure whether the coachers would vote 2 sophs from the same team onto the all section team, a lot of the picks are about seniority in my opinion. Also, travel conflicts may hurt them, as if they are playing high level travel, which I would guess they are, they may both just not be at enough games to be justified voting for.
blue line- Yes, Ketchabaw would be my choice at this point, but I’m not very knowledgeable on goalies in the area, so take that pick with a grain of salt. Altough I’m not sure any goalie other than Stark will make it.
Wouldn’t surprise me at all if the All Section Team has something like 14 Forwards, 3 Defensemen, and 1 Goalie on it. By comparison last year’s team was 10 Forwards 7 Dmen and 1 goalie. Not seeing too many strong returning defensemen other than Landis, Sherding, and Scholer.
yea i can guaruntee we would beat fordham mamorneck rye john jay and white plains this year
and im not talking about the past
cuz we have a completley difffernt team now
Great to hear Harvey is putting together a strong team. Hope they can schedule the Sufferns, Mamos, Pelhams and Ryes of the Section. Might be hard this season with those Section One teams’ usual upstate commitments, though. Harvey would need to become a regular paower for any of those 4 teams to drop upstate opponents to make room for Harvey.
Hockeyfan- I took a quick look at last year’s rosters and agree with you that the Section as a whole looks a little light on the blue line. I would add New Ro’s Sioufas and WP’s young McGee to the list for consideration. If the Section is relatively forward strong this year, unless those forwards play two way hockey (like the Suffern, Pelham and Rye coaches demand) the goalie stats could get a little ugly and result in less goalies being considered for All Section.
Its Offical! Gonna be a long season for BC!
Burke Catholic Joins Catholic School League
09/06/2011
Burke Catholic Ice Hockey will play its inaugural season in the ‘A’ Division of CHSHL. The ‘A’ Division is comprised of the following teams: St. Joe By The Sea(SI), Msgr. Farrell, Fordham Prep, Iona Prep, Chaminade, St. Anthony, St. Mary. Scheduled games will begin in November.
The eight team league will alleviate many of the scheduling problems the Eagles had encountered with their past affiliation with section 9 hockey. The overall competition will be much better, the league more defined (14 league games), and a playoff schedule that could lead to a berth in a NYS championship vs the winner from the Buffalo Region.
Although the news is exciting, the season will be a challenging one for the Eagles. The ‘A’ division of the CHSHL will test a very young Squad that will need to be committed to perform at its very best.
How bout a Burke – Harvey Game!!! Should be a good one!
Iona Vs Suffern is on the calendar…....
get your pop-corn ready.
Burke – Iona 2x’s this season. Should be good ones..
Iona vs Harvey this year is actually happening
burke v harvey good game if you cant sleep
Suffern 7 Iona 3 is my prediction. Not so sure Iona is ready to commit to playing two way hockey yet, so they`ll score but will not defends that well against teams that can score.
I can guarantee you that Mamaroneck, Suffern, will not waste their time playing Harvey. It is a no win situation, if they win they are supposed to, if they lose it is embarassing. Mamaroneck rarely plays non public school teams anymore with the exception of RCDS once in a while. With a 20 game schedule… why would they. Harvey should play some of the teams playing from Brewster who don’t travel much and would like to add some different competition.
Watch out for Pelham Goalie, he played very well in some big games last season. Made a diving save in Rye game at West point with seconds left to preserve the win. A terrible non goal was called a goal and cost Pelham. They will be awesome this year they know how close they were last year, Pelham & Suffern will be the 2 best this year Sherding will dominate on Defence and he will be recognized for his 2 way talent as I have witnessed first hand while he played travel.
Burke cancelled the season. Only 13 players showed up for the preseason meeting. In the times herald record this morning.
EAGLE HOCKEY
Friday, September 09, 2011
Burke Catholic Drops Program
09/09/2011
Just as Burke Catholic decided to join the Catholic School League, the school announced it will be dropping the ice hockey program. All involved did everything in their power to keep the program alive, yet dwindling roster numbers , the closing of Ice Time Sports, and a sour economy, dictated the end results. So after a fine eleven year run, originated by Mr. John Dolan, the doors will close on a program that was extremely successful yet a victim of the times.
Thanks to all who made the program so successful.
Coach Trezza
I hate to see programs shut down.
Section 9 is left with MW and Newburgh, anyone know the health (numbers) for these programs.
Newburgh may not be able to field a team. They have not scheduled any games with MW for the upcoming season. MW schedule is complete. MW numbers are good. Quality is another story. Lucky if they are a .500 team this year. This will be their weakest team over the past 15 years.
Hate to see the high school teams go too. Hard to understand its importance until its not there. Monroe, yes not as good as the past but the most important thing is another absolute free ride into the regionals unlike section 1 which requires teams to play almost as many as four games in a week of sudden death to get there
D1:
1) Suffern.
2) Etb.
3) Mamo.
4/5) NewRo/WP
D2:
1) Pelham
2) Rye
3/4) JJ/Brewster
5) Scarsdale
One question.
Since Burke no longer has a team, who does the D2 section winner play to get to Utica?
hockeylover-
I don’t think that has been determined yet. I believe the section chairmen from each of the 9 sections have a fall meeting every year, and I think it is at some point in September, so that will probably all be worked out at some point over the next couple of weeks.
predictions by confrence
Confrence IA
1. Mahopac
2. Lakeland Panas
3. Somers/ N. Salem
4. Carmel
5. Yonkers
more to come later…..
Conference IB
1. Brewster
2. John Jay
3. Pawling
4. JFK
5. Hen Hud
Conference II
1. Mamoroneck
2. Pelham
3. ETB
4. White Plains
5. New Rochelle
6. Scarsdale
7. Sleepy Hollow
Conference III
1. Rye
2. Mt. Pleasant
3. Fow Lane
4. Ryetown / Harrison
5. Horrace Greely
6. Byram Hills
7. Ossining
Conference III
1. Suffern
2. Nyack/ Tappan Zee
3. Pearl River
4. Clarkstown
5. North Rockland
Beast- Like most of your pix. By Yonkers,, you mean Yorktown, right? In 1B, Hen Hud might be a little better than you think. In II, I think Pelham finishes just ahead of Mamo. In III, I think RTH is a bit stronger than Mt. P and Fox Lane, buy it’s close. In IV, the 4 teams behind Suffern seem very similar to each other.
I would put the local teams in 4 groups:
Group One: Suffern, RCDS, Pelham, Iona, Mamo, Rye, ETB, WP, Brewster, Harvey
Group Two: New Ro, Jay, RTH, Scarsdale, Pac, Mt. P, Fox Lane, Fordham, Step
Group Three: North Roc, PR, Clarkstown, SHI, SNS, NTZ, Greeley, Hen Hud
Group Four: KPV, L/P, Carmel, Pawling, Yorktown, Ossining, Byram Hills
It seems like just about every team is on the reloading mission this year. Obviously Suffern will be the best D1 team due to the fact that he is an excellent coach and focused on Suffern Hockey year around. Mamaroneck could be real good, but their coach also coaches football and baseball and does not touch hockey out of season. This hurts the program and is one of the reasons Mamaroneck will always be second fiddle. Schelling loves hockey #1. Chap loves Baseball #1. Thanks to alot of youth coaches and a large youth program and travel program, Mamaroenck varsity will always be one of the better teams as far as wins and losses. But at the top level, it hurts not having someone guiding them through out the year like Suffern does.
looking at section1hockey.com’s site – some schedules are up
looking at some good non-section1 games…
-clarkstown plays mw twice, also plays rcds and ithaca
-lakeland panas plays mw to finish out their year
-sleepy hollow/irv. also scheduled mw
mamo, pelham, rye, suffern will all have loaded non-section1 schedules as usual..
off the post, look out for iona this year and years to come
hockey program has totally been re-branded after year 1 with bonelli last year
they hired more full-time and part-time coaches, they are traveling to norway over a break for games, have either 2 jv teams or will have a 3rd team (modified), the cost almost doubled for the parents, and the ice time is every day during the week (like suffern)
will be interesting..
Fanotgame I actually agree with 99% of your grouping. However. Would put New Ro and Pac at the end of Group 2 and would take Harvey out.
Also, how much of an impact does anyone think that fans and crowded games have on the players?
I doubt Mamaroneck will play Iona Prep. Their coach is always afraid that if they lose to Iona, they will start to lose playes to IP. It’s a shame, they would be a good match up most years, especially this year.
agreed that harvey will surprise everyone
mamo will keep it that their jvs play each other, and thats it
been like that for decades..
Hope you are right. They were underachievers last year once again. Lets see how the new coach does. I cannot see Rcds being good either thats another program year in and year out that really has become mediocre. Mamaroneck does not play Iona I think becuase they have so many other commitments to other teams. The Iona game is a waste for them they can get better or equal competition with Rye Pelham Suffern White Plains etc
for the publics to play a catholic/private, its not a “value” game – doesn’t contribute towards rankings, power rankings, sos (strength of sched.), etc
Hope to see a Bosco/Suffern game this year again.
I think the Rockland League will be more competitive. Pearl River, NTZ and North Rockland bring back lots of best players from last year. Clarkstown will be good too as the North and South demographic and student population advantage will start to kick in.
al, do you know if the gordon (power) conference is adding/relegating teams?
last year’s teams…
the famous nhl-draft-picks-every-year-powerhouse, delbarton prep (morristown, catholic)
st. augustine prep (richland buena vista, catholic)
st. peter’s prep (jersey city, catholic)
gloucester catholic (gloucester city, catholic)
christian brothers academy (lincroft middletown township, catholic)
bergen catholic (oradell, catholic)
seton hall prep (west orange, catholic)
bishop eustace (pennsauken township, catholic)
pope john (sparta township, catholic)
for those of you who don’t know, the gordon conference is nj’s only non-geographic-based conference, a true power conference
(side note, catholics and publics in nj play in the same leagues)
and of course…
don bosco prep (ramsey, catholic)
Harveys turnin heads this year
To Harvey 19- RCDS is a solid progam that plays a difficult schedule. They don’t always get the respect they deserve on this blog, though. My guess is that you have the Wildcats on your schedule at least once this coming season. Knock them off and you should get some respect. Hope you get some of the top Section One teams on your schedule in the coming years. Would be surprised if Suff, Maao, Pelham or Rye have room this season. Maybe see if you can get into the WP Thanksgiving tourney. If you play well, you get 4 or 5 games. I figure Harvey is not limited to 20 regular season games like the publics are.
fanot,
harvey is not. they can play 100 games if they wanted.
harvey,
beat rcds and iona (always on your schedule) and you’ll get respect.
Puck
MW is not a good non league game this year. Suffern and ETB have also scheduled games with MW. MW will also participate in the WP Thanksgiving tournament.
Let me say this is by no means an attack or criticism of any team or program. Just an opinion. Every year it seems we get a new sector of bloggers pumping their team up for the coming year. Most times these bloggers hail from programs that have been down for a long time or they have not won much of anything. They come on here challenging all the best teams, and if those top clubs do not play their team they want to call them out here on the blog. For years it was Iona saying how great the JV was, and how they would beat anyone, and if Mamaroneck didnt play them that Mamaroneck was afraid. Then last year it was rcds calling out teams that they claim were afraid to play. Problem is the big four Suffern, Mamaroneck Rye Pelham and also White Plains have been good all the time, and you never see Mamaroneck come on here talking crap. These new kids on the block really lack having respect of the programs that have been on top for years and years. They have, or think they have one good team in the last fifteen years and they want all the top clubs to stop what they are doing and schedule them. Its kind of juvenile if you ask me. Win a big game against a really good team, or win a section championship or the catholic championship once in a while and maybe then you can get recognition
not trying to get recognition im trying to get a game with mamaroneck rye pelham and white plains who are all extremely over rated.
@ fanotgame
haha yess i meant yorktown.. and i blindly threw Hen hud last not knowing a single thing about the program.. Also the Pelham/ Mamo thing will be a close call and will probably be the top two in the conference and the rest were pretty random guesses..
Harvey 19- if the 4 teams you mentioned above are all “extremely” overrated, please name all the local teams (other than your beloved Harvey and the consensus gold standard Suffern) that are better than them.
dumbest thing I have ever read on this blog. The teams you mention win every year and are very consistent, and have won the most of any of the teams in the area. Harvey? hasn`t done anything in decades. So now you think you have a good team? Well, its about time, you should field a good team every year, with a rink, and the ability to draw players from anywhere When Harvey beats a quality opponent let us know
Harvey 19- I will help you out. Maybe RCDS, ETB and Iona are similar to, or on a given day, a little better than, some of those 4 mentioned by you. I don’t see anyone else. So, all 4 are likely to be among the top 10 locals at season’s end. Hardly overrated.
Yea Harvey will be turning heads. We will look away from the rink with your terrible play.
section one is way over rated in general.
Usually it takes a few weeks into the season for there to be a clownwho is the despised blogger who knows nothing. Congrats to harvey19 for already taking this honors in the pre pre season. Harvey is a joke and has been for 30 years. Nobody cares about that program or school in general. They are not affiliated with section one, and are axwaste of time for the upper tier section one teams to play. Harvey should play Brewster, fox lane, mahopac etc. Those teams dont travel and would welcome playing someone different. Until Harvey beats someone relevant, pipe down. You are clueless and your parents are wasting their money going to that creepy obscure high school. Even the name Harvey is just dorky.
who r u to be talking? some bender from a section one team. so until u play us and beat us dont talk. and dont call me a clown cuz im nicer than anyone in ur section.
or a parent lol
Harvey 19-
Harvey tied Burke and lost to RCDS 9-1 last year. This Pelham team that you claim is overrated beat Burke 7-1. The Rye team that I also assume you think is overrated beat RCDS 5-4. Now I’m not one to compare scores, but those are pretty glaring. Now please, just do yourself a favor and get off the blog, you’re embarrassing yourself and your school.
Clown Harvey 19. Harvey is irrelevant. Sports wise it’s a joke. It’s a place people send their kids so they don’t get beat up in public school. Also a school where teachers will give alot of individual attention to, because they need it. Also a school where parents can send their kids away for 31,950 dollars. Pesky children. Not sure what kind of parent feels the need to send away their kids starting in 6th grade, but I guess they have their reasons.
Harvey 19’s claim that Section One is overrated needs to be clarified. At least if you are comparing Section One to the rest of the public school sections in NYS. Our Section has had numerous teams ranked in the sportswriters’ final state rankings the past few seasons. Along with regular apppearances in Utica. Expect both Pelham and Suffern to be among the very top ranked teams when those rankings come out in December. It would not surprise me to see Rye up there also. And Harvey would have been in the bottom half of Section One had it played there the last few years.
Now, if you are comparing Section One to, lets say the top NJ league, you are accurate. Our gold standard Suffern played an even game with Bosco, a middle level team in that NJ league. And if you go higher to DI prep, of course Section One compares unfavorably. But, in our own little world of NYS publics, Section One hockey does just fine.
I do hope Harvrey puts out a good team this season and for years to come. The more strong local teams that can play each other, the better.
Harvey. If section one hockey is as bad and overrated as you seem to claim then why do you so desperately want to play with us?
to show u that ur not good at all even u might think u have some talent theres none.
Who was the last section 1 team you guys even beat?
scrubs scarsdale 12-3 was the only section one team we played last year
yes in the Scarsdale tournament and Scarsdale was missing many players. Harvey then played Stepinac and got into a huge brawl.
Which team is returning the most talent?
Mamaroneck loses alot of offense in Hagan, But their goalies are back. White Plains lost a lot, but have their young goalie, it will be interesting if he improved much. ETB is always ETB, they never seem to be able to put it all together. It’s hard to have a team with kids from different schools… the chemistry is never right. Are any of the Northern league teams bringing back alot of talent? I have no clue who is going to be #2 to Suffern and Pelham.
PS, Harvey, I hope you guys are finally going to put a decent team on the ice. Harvey has been irrelevant in High School hockey since forever.
most section 1 modified teams can beat harveys varsity squad.
I think John Jay will be strong and so will Brewster. Mamaroneck is very good every year and with a pipeline of skaters from the JV they will be good. Rye is going to be good. In regards to Suffern and Pelham I think Suffern and Pelham have proven to be the best teams year in and year out, especially in the last four or five years. Theres never been a time I can remember even going way back to when Pelham and Suffern were not involved in the section championships every season. Hats off to those teams
tough call. Actually, the only team that has played in the Section finals in each of the last 5 seasons is Rye, going 3-2 in those 5 games. Suffern missed the 2009 final (WP vs. Mamo) and went 3-1 in the other 4. Pelham missed both the 2007 and 2010 finals (actually was bounced in the quarters both years), but went 2-1 in the 3 finals it played over that 5 year period. Mamo missed the 2007 finals (Suff vs. North) and the last 2 finals, going 2-0 in the two they played in over that 5 year period. Summarizing the last five years’ Sction One finalists and their records:
Rye: 5 times out of 5 with 3 titles
Suffern: 4 times out of 5 with 3 titles
Pelham: 3 times out of 5 with 2 titles
Mamo: 2 times out of 5 with 2 titles
WP: 2 times out of 5 with 0 titles
North: 1 time out of 5 with 0 titles
L/P: 1 time out of 5 with 0 titles
Jay: 1 time out of 5 with 0 ttles
Yorktown: 1 time out of 5 with 0 titles
Also, Rye has 16 Section One titles (many of them DI) , second only to Suffern. Pelham has many section finals appearances, but only 5 titles (all in DII).
thanks Fanofthegame. Your comments prompted me to look it up so to speak. Ryes titles were more numerous before 1994. Rye has won the title in 2010, 2008, 2007, and had not won since 1994 which is 17 years ago, I assume Zegras? or maybe Kelly behind the bench? In the last ten years Rye has won 3 titles. Pelham has won 3 titles in the last 6 years, and 4 titles in the last 7 seasons. Pelham has also gone farther once winning the section. They have made it to Utica 3 times out of 4 when they have won the section. Looking at the section 1 website it appears that Pelham has made it to the finals 10 of the last 13 seasons. with 5 titles. Rye has 3 since 2007 after a long drought dating back to 1994. Either way both programs are superb.
The reference made by fan is a little muddy. Every team except Suffern was division 1 up until 2003 I believe. Rye did win division 1 titles in 81/82, 82/83, 83/84, 87/88 when the league and divisions were based on skill level rather than school size. After a certain point al teams were in the mind set to stay clear of the Suffern machine and every team chose to play in division 2 and Suffern was alone in divsion 1. Mamaroneck was division 2 believe it or not and won the bulk of those division 2 titles Pelham won one New Rochelle, Clarkstown but Pelham was in alot of those finals against Mamaroneck as well. New Rochelle had a pretty good run back there too. If the comparison is to Pelham and Rye on this topic today Rye was a factor in the 80s and early 90s but had a time that they were not that storng from the mid 90s till 2007. Pelham to their credit was always in the conversation and while they are going well the last several years they were always involved in the championships games win or lose. I see this seasons games between the two as very exciting and well played by two awesome programs
Those top 5 teams, suffern ,mamk,Pelham, rye, white plains all have rinks and youth hockey. Coincidence? Of course not. Out of all high school sports, hockey has the most uneven playing field between teams. So I find it hard to overly congratulate the teams who are continually good. There are some excellent coaches out there that would love to not bus it to every game and every practice.
Out of all those programs, I would say mamk has the most youth players and the best youth hockey program. Then Why does suffern continually dominates them on the high school level most years?
How can Iona already be on the ice practicing? Aren’t there rules in the Catholic rule preventing this. My kid was pressured into joining these sessions and frankly I don’t appreciate it.
Instead of coming on here and complaining talk to the coach if you are unhappy. Oh and rocket everybody pretty much has youth hockey and rinks. All the teams up my way have had the advantage of having Brewster Ice arena open for quite some time. The kids that go to Mahopac, Jay, Byram Brewster etc have had high level youth programs available to them from mites to midget levels. I think those teams should have done better over that time span. The Brewster rink has a huge youth program and training rink. They have great coaches too. Mamaroneck has a youth program and lots of skaters and Suffern has a good youth thing gonig too. Pelham and Ryes rink do not have those big rink programs but do have youth hockey
@Iona? ... Seriously?
You think Iona rules? should go to the coach?
I’m sure that will really help his or her kid’s chances of getting a lot of ice time this season.
This blog is EXACTLY where they should float it and see what people think.
In fact, it might be one of the best topics to come up on here in a while…(not that I don’t like the Harvey stuff …I’m thinking Harvey 19 could be this season’s raiderfan)
Hey Ned. This Harvey 19 might even contend with brickwall as the blogs biggest agitator. He’s like the Sean Avery of blogs. As for the guy saying every own has youth hockey and their own rink and it is a level playing field….. You should not drink and blog at the same time.
Brewsters youth hockey is very strong. They have learn to play hockey for the little guys and have levels right up through juniors. I agree with the other poster that the coaches are very strong. The high school teams that have benefited from the opening of Brewster in 1997 should be better teams and programs than the other down county teams. Westchester skating academy has strong youth teams and training as well and there are some high school teams that benefit from that rinks programs too. My point is that I do share the belief that Mamaroneck probably does have the best feeder resources however the teams affiliated and skating out of Brewster have the best training grounds. Those Brewster teams play youth hockey at the higher levels while many of the down county programs kids are still in the hudosn valley local youth leagues.
As I awake from my summer slumber, I’m reading a lot about Harvey…why? Just kidding. Can’t talk about what I don’t know about. Pre-season, let’s see. Pelham. We have a ton of returning players. haven’t forgotten the call in states either. Will be hungry and led by a great staff. No doubt team to beat in D2. Rye like Mamo, don’t care who they lost will always be tough and well coached. Rye is going to be a quick team. Mamo lost their top scorer and top d, but does have sound goaltending. WP, lost a bunch. But they have a great young goalie that will keep them in games. Suffern. Someone wrote in a earlier blog, “they are top dog until someone beats them”. Well put and I agree. They have two really good forwards. The team that scares the heck out of me is ETB. I know three schools, travel players, blah blah blah. I’m still having nightmares from last Febs game. Those two forwards, if motivated just can’t be stopped. But, they can self destruct. haven’t forgotten they made me eat humble pie.
Go Pelicans!
dangerous but not to Rye and Pelham They are a division 1 school now so we shall see if they play enough defense to compete with Mamaroneck White Plains and Suffern
No offense to the WP goalie. Because he is a very talented kid. However, I think his game might be a little off without his big stonewall defense men?
To frozen puck. You might be the first person to say mamaroneck is well coached. Out of the top 5 teams year in and year out, mamaroneck consistently underachieves. The last 2 years in the playoffs have been embarrassing in mamk. The only time they do anything is when they inherit so much talent, they can’t mess it up.
hockeylover-
I definitely agree with you on that point, and I honestly think that many are overrating WP. No matter if you think they deserved it or not, WP lost 3 First Team All-State players. Their graduating senior class probably accounted for 2/3 of who actually played against the likes of Suffern. There are only 4 players that I can think of who got significant ice time that are returning.
On to Mamaroneck, yes they have a good feeder program, yes they always reload, but for some reason, I’m really not feeling it this year. This year’s team is weaker than the one ousted by New Ro in the quarterfinals last year. Yes they are very strong in net, but I think a lack of offense, and depth on defense are going to be major issues for them. Looking at their stats from last year, they return only one double digit goal scorer, and 3 players with over 10 points. That’s got to trouble chap at some level.
Why not continue breaking down the D1 contenders:
Suffern: I predict they will cakewalk through all of the division 1 teams in the section. As a section, this is one of the weakest groups of D1 teams in years. Just solid across the board, although offensively, not anywhere near as strong as last year.
ETB: The only team who I could see giving Suffern a real test. Honestly, purely on paper, they may have the best offense and defense in the section, and I’ve heard that all “travel players” are fully committed this year for the first time in awhile. But even though they may have a ton of talent on the blueline, that doesn’t always translate into a good defense, as team defense stems from much more than just having strong skaters on the back end. As fanotgame mentioned, there is a real lack of standout D this year in general, so I could see ETB really taking advantage of that, and putting up some big numbers.
hockeyfan-
Well thank you. And actually I agree with the rest of what you said. I really think that the returning talent on new ro and on white plains makes them equal. I don’t know if any one else agrees with that but that’s just my thought.
Really?- I think Chaps takes his hits on this blog, unfairly so. Mamo does battle fits of inconsistency at times. But , Chaps is a real motivator to his team. As my earlier list regarding recent Section finalists shows, if Mamo gets to the Section final, they seal the deal. A fearless group that just needs to focus game in and game out for more consistency.
Fano, absolutely agree with you. Just from watching our games against Mamo, he works the bench very well always in his players ears. X”s and O’s, I don’t know about, but he does deserve some respect. True, they won’t be as powerful as they were, but still need to be watched. Someone mentioned WP. They lost a ton, but still have some nice players and that young goalie is real good. I also understand ETB is not a threat to Pelham and Rye because they are in D1 now, but I’m sure we play them. Like I said, they scare the heck out of me especially if they are all committed to playing.
Don’t feel like debating the Mamk stuff really. But I admit they had talent the last two years and did nothing. Hopefully, this year, they overachieve and play like a team because they lack a true sniper and their D is suspect (as always). They can’t do any worse than last years team that got knocked out in the quarterfinals. This years team is playing with house money. They will have to fight and claw to be competitive with most of the teams they will play this year. They will need their goalie (whoever wins the starting nod) to step up and steal some games. With both goalies coming in to their senior year… goaltending should be their strong point.
fanotgame-
I honestly think a coach being a motivator is vastly overrated. In my experiences as a player, the only times a coach can really make a difference motivating his team, is when there is an inferior team sitting on the other bench, and your team is not excited to play. Trust me that without a coach saying a word, you’re going to be motivated to play well and amped up when your playing in front of a packed crowd at West Point, or SportO, or Hommocks against a rival. I think we can all agree that Chap is not a great “X and O” coach, but the program he has created at Mamaroneck is where he really earns his stripes in my book. He has created something that all the youth players in Mamaroneck want to be a part of one day. It seems that on his team, he requires a level of dedication, hard work, and commitment that forces everyone to give their best and push the guy next to him at all times.
Great idea I will question the coach about my son being forced to skate before the season starts. That will get him tons of icetime during the season. Sounds like you want me to shut up and not question how Iona can practice together before season starts. Unfair to force my kid because he isn’t one of the stars to practice.
Was hoping someone here could give me some insight into this deal.
article in paper today how bingham (rcds) walked on to miami-OH practice squad (his dad played hockey there)
This term is misunderstood. You realize 93% of the players who play HS also play travel hockey at some level?
On this blog, when people are referring to “travel players,” I think it generally means those who play at the AAA level, or Juniors, who have many conflicts with HS and may opt to forgo the HS event in favor of Travel. And 93% is a very accurate number, curious to see where you came up with that. I can guarantee that nowhere near 93% of HS players play travel. You have to remember that on most every team there are a number of kids who may be new to the game, and have never played a game of hockey outside of the ones their school team plays, or rec league. Also, you have plenty of kids who stop playing travel as soon as they get into the varsity ranks. I’ve seen this countless times as well.
hockeyfan,
I am not sure, But as far as I know, Chap has nothing to do with travel hockey, how could he, between coachine baseball and football and umping etc. he has no time to deal with hockey out of season. Travel hockey in Mamaroenck was around long before Chap entered the arena. Town of Mamaroneck Rec. Dept runs Mamk Travel and rec. teams. Sandy Fletcher and Cliff Gill were the coaches that put Mamaroneck on the map a long time ago. Chap has done a decent job of keeping things rolling in a mostly positive direction.
sec 1 is a joke along with hs hockey. i dont get why you argue about hs school hockey ANYBODY CAN PLAY. not that difficult
Iona rules?
here is your much needed insight. You are setting a very poor example as a parent. What is happening here happens with almost every team in every hs sport. Many teams call them captains practices. The coach is not present or directly involved because you are correct, there are rules on when teams can practice.
These captains practices are run by the captains and upper classmen, and do a few things.. 1. build team unity, 2. get team in the best possible shape and a jump on the lazy kids and parents.. (uumm,, that would be you) which both lead to a young man who learns that hard work, and doing a little extra will go a long way in life. I guess you don’t agree with that, so I would suggest, since he’s not a “star” you tell him to quit. You might even be voted dad of the year on this blog and by anyone who knows you. Damn, I wish I would have taught my kid to be lazy, not a team player, complain when you don’t agree with what your WHOLE team is doing (or the hard working kids on the team anyway) maybe I could have been dad of the year.
Welcome back, postman.
That was a classic postman post. Great to see him back.
I posted earlier on this but I liked where postman took it. I feel if the father has issue don`t hide or complain in the background or at home, talk to the coach be upfront. Otherwise let your child decide if this team, the sport is important enough to him to make the “sacrifice” The dad should be glad Iona is trying to turn it around after years of under achieving
Postman and others your missing the point. the coach is on the ice. Your not allowed to have formal practices this early in the season. The CHSHL prohibits it. It is unfair to Fordham and other CHSHL schools to allow teams to start before everyone else.
Iona rules for sure with a month worth of extra practices. The blog goes no where with people attacking someone who brings up valid points. Not everyone can agree and there is no need to go postal when they do not.
Next we are goig to hear that Bingham doesn’t have school spirit because he isn’t playing for his club team, Santini and Pesce didn’t stay and play HS.
Lick the stamp harder next time, there is postage due on your comments.
Ok, so if the coach is on the ice, ,, you are, and are raising a snitch.. very proud, very proud!!
The iona pre-season practices are not ‘iona’ practices. There are various kids on the ice from local school’s in the tri-state, in addition to iona kids. Thus no rules are being broken.
Those “Iona” practices are all Iona kids no question. Nice try though. Truth be told the coach of Iona is doing the best thing for his program. That catholic league rule is stupid and really has no relavance to hockey. Hes doing the best he can to turn it around but dont try to bull crap us and say “tri state area” every kid is either in school at the prep or on their way there and I say its a good idea
So let me get this straight? If my son and I know who shot JR, saw the shooter on the grassy knoll, see a bag left unattended on the subway and we tell the cops we are snitches.
What is this teaching kids? You must have a job with the Miami Hurricanes.
Return to sender Postman your intelligence and your address are unknown.
Lets not get too crazy about the pre season hockey practices. The Ice Hutch runs a Sept/Oct league where teams like Rye, Mamo, Pelham, New Ro play each other with the HS coaches running the bench. That same league (with Hommocks as an additional venue) also has an April/May segment. I expect the coaches are OK with kids missing for varsity football or lax, etc. But, for those without conflicts, the more ice time for those who want it, the better.
if JR, the guy on the grassy knoll or the owner of the bag is a fellow teammate, yes you are a snitch, and we are talking hockey practice here, not murder.. oh boy, and you question my intelligence..
Oh, one more thing, If you can mock me and make me laugh I will love it, and actually enjoy a good whipping on this blog.. but so far your whole return to sender, address unkown is just dumb, it wasn’t even a very good song, nevermind a joke
Come on, thats a great song